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JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 29, 2018 8:01AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I purchased this double die break.... "2 large cuds" today on ebay.... what I need to know is if it's real or was faked..... please review the photos. I have 30 days to send it back for a full refund if I need to. Thank you.



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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:18PM

    I should add the seller has 3177 sales at 100% feed back... member of eBay since Nov19... 02...
    And has 861 sales for the past year.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:18PM

    Hmmmm!

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The small boy brought round a small case-book, which he placed his cuttings.

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:45PM

    It's a well known variety, mostly due to there being two cuds, an obverse die break and reverse retained cud.

    Legit.

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 7:34PM

    Looks good to me. Can't really see how it could be faked. Great coin.

  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

    I have the same quarter somewhere'

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly appears legitimate and known.... Neat coin... definitely a keeper. Cheers, RickO

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks legit to me also... IMO you have a nice coin.

    ----- kj
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real, but I would never buy coins from P.T. Barnum. That listing is inaccurate and off-putting to me.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 30, 2018 5:14AM

    If at all possible and time permits for
    @FredWeinberg ...
    I would really appreciate your weighing
    In on this thread also.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    Definitely a legit error, a known variety.
    That means that the seller's "un-heard of" claim is totally bogus, of course.

    This.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭✭

    https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/cud-error-on-coins-768438

    Link to same coin errot

    **along with description of cud :) **

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse looks more like a struck thru [perhaps a piece of wire].

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 847 ✭✭✭✭

    It's 100% authentic, and is well known and relatively common as quarter cuds go. I've owned probably over a dozen of them....

    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins.
  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a nice one - as others said, the "Unknown" part is a bit untrue:

    CU-25c-ND(P)-04
    http://cuds-on-coins.com/washington-quarter-cuds-no-date-2/

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    "You Suck Award" - February, 2015

    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @StrikeOutXXX
    Thank you ever so much for turning me onto that link... that's the one I've been looking for but could not find.

    Jim

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As others have mentioned, it's a well-known
    and popular Cud/Retained Cud die break quarter.

    Always a nice addition to a Cud or Die Break
    collection of coins.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2018 8:05AM

    I would like to thank everyone for your quick and accurate responses in my time of need.

    Jim

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it known what date this is? I wonder if at some point someone pulled one out of a new roll. Seems to be from somewhere in the 1980s?

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Is it known what date this is? I wonder if at some point someone pulled one out of a new roll. Seems to be from somewhere in the 1980s?

    Obverse mint mark puts it past 1965, 66, 67 (when no coins had MM's), and resumed in 1968. So, sometime past then. But I'm sure there's an exact date since it's a variety.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The P mintmark did not reappear on quarters until 1980. This quarter has the look of a 1980s design based on the portrait and mintmark, but could be very early 90s as well. I think it was around 1993 that they added the lower relief "spaghetti hair" portrait. (Many 1990s quarters I have seen have a more flattened mintmark than the one shown here, which leads me to believe it is from the 80s.).

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    The P mintmark did not reappear on quarters until 1980. This quarter has the look of a 1980s design based on the portrait and mintmark, but could be very early 90s as well. I think it was around 1993 that they added the lower relief "spaghetti hair" portrait. (Many 1990s quarters I have seen have a more flattened mintmark than the one shown here, which leads me to believe it is from the 80s.).

    Well thought out, JBK. I agree and punched ya up with one.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd bet lunch that it is a 1983.
    It just looks like a 1983 obverse.....and I am not familiar with this variety... Just going with years and years of scrutinizing coins as my reference.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet, congratulations !!! :)

    Timbuk3

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