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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    62 money. ;)

    Then what would a real 62 be worth? The same?

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $4mil even....because I don't want to spend more time being wrong than that.... ;)

    (Kind of disappointed this isn't a give-away thread....)

    Easily distracted Type Collector
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    62 money. ;)

    Then what would a real 62 be worth? The same?

    More. A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium

    They’re all overgraded. I’m the first to admit that the one I own is a 63+/64-

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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sat in the auction room for the last two sales of this coin. Not a big fan of this coin, overgraded (FWIW) and ugly. I'll go $2.6 mil+.They should regrade it AU50 so it can get some sympathy votes.
    And I always get a chuckle when they list provenances for the original 1804 $1s. There is no proof or documentation whatsoever...none...nada...zilcho...zero... that the PR68 specimen is from the Sultan of Muscat presentation set.

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5.2 is my WAG

    It's beautiful

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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    CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭

    2.4

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hammer or all in?

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    CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭

    Hammer

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 4:43PM

    2 million, 746 thousand, 174 dollars and sixteen cents.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4.6 million all in.

    GrandAm :)
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3.9 WAG


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:
    A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium.

    Question...Why would an iconic, low pop, incredible coin such as an 1804 Dollar need a CAC sticker? What is the purpose?


    Later, Paul.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium.

    Question...Why would an iconic, low pop, incredible coin such as an 1804 Dollar need a CAC sticker? What is the purpose?

    To show it’s not doctored?

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    JasonGamingJasonGaming Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭

    3.6 mil

    Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.

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    ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Stooge said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium.

    Question...Why would an iconic, low pop, incredible coin such as an 1804 Dollar need a CAC sticker? What is the purpose?

    To show it’s not doctored?

    If I understand what you're saying.. wouldn't yours be worth more as a CAC 64, than a 65 w/o CAC?

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $3.15M all inclusive.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

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    Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 5:19PM

    $3 million all in.

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2.8 hammer price

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take 2.8m all in

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 5:36PM

    As the OP previously stated, every one is known. If it's been doctored, hairlined (Childs), pin-scratched (KOS), pedigree-punched, dipped or otherwise mishandled, that has already been factored into the equation.

    If you see a CAC sticker on an 1804 $1 it's a downgrade or a discovery coin and the press release will also explain the next week's schedule for the Rapture :o

    $2.9M+20%

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    slider23slider23 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭✭

    2.95 million all in

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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $4.4MM

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I never have understood the fascination with this coin. To me it is not real. It was minted in 1834 for special sets...not 1804.

    But that's just me. I just don't like fake dates on coins.

    How are you with the bicentennial quarter and half?

    I don't collect those, but that is a different situation isn't it. It would be like minting those in 2006. ;)

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I never have understood the fascination with this coin. To me it is not real. It was minted in 1834 for special sets...not 1804.

    But that's just me. I just don't like fake dates on coins.

    How are you with the bicentennial quarter and half?

    I don't collect those, but that is a different situation isn't it. It would be like minting those in 2006. ;)

    Is it different? They struck 1976 dated coins in 1975...which by your definition you don’t like. Of course, they also struck 1803 dated dollars in 1804 according to Mint records.

    The coin is what it is - a diplomatic presentation coin struck with the last authorized date a dollar could have by law. Legal tender? Yup

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2.69 million.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:01PM

    @slider23 said:
    2.95 million all in

    $2,490,000.13 plus juice?

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are also 1797-dated ED struck in ‘98.

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I totally understand coins minted 1 year off either way, but 30 years is a bit much. ;)

    Like TDN stated....it is a diplomatic presentation coin struck with the last authorized date a dollar could have by law.

    I would much rather have a 1913 Liberty Nickel or a 1894-S Barber Dime.....But can't afford either one! :/

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ilikemonsters said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Stooge said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium.

    Question...Why would an iconic, low pop, incredible coin such as an 1804 Dollar need a CAC sticker? What is the purpose?

    To show it’s not doctored?

    If I understand what you're saying.. wouldn't yours be worth more as a CAC 64, than a 65 w/o CAC?

    I personally would do that. All I have to do is get the rock and the hard place to agree. ;)

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I never have understood the fascination with this coin. To me it is not real. It was minted in 1834 for special sets...not 1804.

    But that's just me. I just don't like fake dates on coins.

    How are you with the bicentennial quarter and half?

    For all we know, 1913 V-nix were made in 1914....

    Originals have profound historical significance. Restrikes are frauds, The fraud worked, but to some those special sets, not fraudulently issued, are emblematic of this country's initial emergence as a world trading power

    Yes - the Originals are amazingly historically important. Restrikes? Pfffft

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    62 money. ;)

    Then what would a real 62 be worth? The same?

    More. A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium

    They’re all overgraded. I’m the first to admit that the one I own is a 63+/64-

    Details ;)

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hammer 2.2 .

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That hammer price depends! Are you going to bid on it? :#

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    62 money. ;)

    Then what would a real 62 be worth? The same?

    More. A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium

    They’re all overgraded. I’m the first to admit that the one I own is a 63+/64-

    Details ;)

    Ticks and lines in the right obverse field. Probably pleasing as a 64 but not an A coin at that grade

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    That hammer price depends! Are you going to bid on it? :#

    Who needs earrings when they have bookends?

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Crypto said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    I don't know. What's an AU worth these days?

    62 money. ;)

    Then what would a real 62 be worth? The same?

    More. A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium

    They’re all overgraded. I’m the first to admit that the one I own is a 63+/64-

    Details ;)

    Ticks and lines in the right obverse field. Probably pleasing as a 64 but not an A coin at that grade

    I was referring to the tooling :p

    That coin is pleasing and an A coin as a 65. Sometimes it just doesn’t matter what the plastic says

    I have $1k if you bookend-stamp a T&N around the D. I am indifferent to the font, so go crazy.

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2018 6:46PM

    Don’t think I haven’t thought about it! Lol

    FWIW - I don’t even consider that when assessing the grade

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3.78m including delivery.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a suspicion TDN may or may not be a plant in the room! So! My guess has a 2+ million dollar spread!

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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $2,975.500 Including the juice.

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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @Stooge said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    A CAC stickered 62 would definitely bring a premium.

    Question...Why would an iconic, low pop, incredible coin such as an 1804 Dollar need a CAC sticker? What is the purpose?

    To show it’s not doctored?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what PCGS is for?


    Later, Paul.
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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I never have understood the fascination with this coin. To me it is not real. It was minted in 1834 for special sets...not 1804.

    But that's just me. I just don't like fake dates on coins.

    How are you with the bicentennial quarter and half?

    Or the 1964 Dime, Quarter and Half which were all struck clear into 1966 alongside the coins dated with the respective years?

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