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LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

usmc1775 - paid quickly w/o asking about combining shipping before I could send an invoice on 2 small lots so I just mailed them.

Left me neutral feedback saying the coins were nice but the $7 shipping was a ripoff.

Told him I didn't appreciate the neutral feedback, so he left neg. feedback on the 2nd lot saying the "coins received didn't look like the coins in the picture".

That's because, in my opinion, they were better than the pictures. :D

What a PITA......

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ouch. Thanks for the heads up.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no good deed...

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't get mad....get even. Buyer is also a seller.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OPA said:
    Don't get mad....get even. Buyer is also a seller.

    Really, can't see that he sells anything.

    got a link?
    bob :)

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) !!!

    Timbuk3
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    HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks!

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He has been a seller within the last 6 months, and may yet sell again. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Totally uncalled for feedback, I'n sure.

    99%+ of buyers who buy multiple lots from me automatically wait for my invoice, or message me about combining shipping before they pay. the other <1% I refund excess shipping as soon as I get their PayPal payment.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    He has been a seller within the last 6 months, and may yet sell again. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Totally uncalled for feedback, I'n sure.

    99%+ of buyers who buy multiple lots from me automatically wait for my invoice, or message me about combining shipping before they pay. the other <1% I refund excess shipping as soon as I get their PayPal payment.

    Me, too, except it's much more like 20-30% at least pay instantly. I appreciate the fast payment, but it's a pain, and I hope I don't miss any. I have one buyer that I've probably sent 50 refunds to over the years. I even have a note telling them to wait. I just don't get it.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    He has been a seller within the last 6 months, and may yet sell again. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Totally uncalled for feedback, I'n sure.

    99%+ of buyers who buy multiple lots from me automatically wait for my invoice, or message me about combining shipping before they pay. the other <1% I refund excess shipping as soon as I get their PayPal payment.

    Me, too, except it's much more like 20-30% at least pay instantly. I appreciate the fast payment, but it's a pain, and I hope I don't miss any. I have one buyer that I've probably sent 50 refunds to over the years. I even have a note telling them to wait. I just don't get it.

    I finally figured out I don't need to "get it", nor will I probably ever - I just need to do the best I can to avoid situations like the OP faced.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I refund buyers at least once per week for double or triple paying the shipping. It's annoying, but not that difficult to do. This problem is a combination of the buyer and seller in my opinion.

    Oh, and to all the posters out there who complain that ALL coins should be sent insured: this is why you don't do it. The only thing people hate more than coins lost or damaged in the mail is the shipping charges required to prevent loss or damage.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    Sonnys88Sonnys88 Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    I would call eBay and explain that the feedback is a lie and only happened because of your response to the buyer's first neutral feedback. They are usually very good about removing feedback that is a lie or inappropriate if you explain it to them.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow... The more I read, the more I am happy I do not sell coins - and ebay especially. I know there must be millions of smooth transactions, however, much like the MSM, we mostly see the bad news....Cheers, RickO

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, I do the same. I wish we could educate these folks! 1 thing to consider is you are paying ebay FVF on the shipping charges you are refunding. I had a Canadian buyer buy around a dozen seashells from me. Didn't say a word. Shocked him when I refunded over $100 in excess shipping charges!

    @airplanenut said:

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    He has been a seller within the last 6 months, and may yet sell again. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Totally uncalled for feedback, I'n sure.

    99%+ of buyers who buy multiple lots from me automatically wait for my invoice, or message me about combining shipping before they pay. the other <1% I refund excess shipping as soon as I get their PayPal payment.

    Me, too, except it's much more like 20-30% at least pay instantly. I appreciate the fast payment, but it's a pain, and I hope I don't miss any. I have one buyer that I've probably sent 50 refunds to over the years. I even have a note telling them to wait. I just don't get it.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Blocked- thank you.

    I did have a first-time occurrence the other day. I was contacted by an eBay user, who said "too bad you blocked me- I would've paid more for that item". I never responded.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    folks are crazy. Had an offer for 50 on a 58 coin. I said, thank you for your interest but the price is too low. They sent back a nasty message about it only 8 bucks your getting most of what you ask for? I blocked them very low number account. I am thinking to myself if it was only 8 bucks, then he could of paid it. I don't mine breaking even but will be danged to take a loss on a nobody account first time purchase. Geez. And I usually throw in extra grams of silver or something. But it was the remark that turned me off.

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    ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:
    They sent back a nasty message about it only 8 bucks your getting most of what you ask for? I blocked them very low number account. I am thinking to myself if it was only 8 bucks, then he could of paid it.

    I do always chuckle at stuff like this. Out of my pocket it is a 'small amount' but out of their pocket even half of the amount is 'ripping them off'. But..most of the stuff I have sold on eBay has gone very well....tougher lately since I have a lot of fairly low value items and shipping has gone up. To stick with the OP the few times it has cost me less to ship than I have charged I have just refunded the difference, it has been easy enough to do. If it ends up being more I take the hit.

    K

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    gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe far too many people get "emotionally invested" over small things. (HERE, I'LL LEAVE YOU NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS OTHER THING SINCE YOU WON'T STROKE MY EGO!)
    I have one time paid extra shipping on a multiple purchase because of the time frame on earning ebucks. I sent a polite message to the seller asking if they combine shipping, then please refund the difference to my paypal, which they did.
    We were both happy!

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    mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    usmc1775 - paid quickly w/o asking about combining shipping before I could send an invoice on 2 small lots so I just mailed them.

    Left me neutral feedback saying the coins were nice but the $7 shipping was a ripoff.

    Told him I didn't appreciate the neutral feedback, so he left neg. feedback on the 2nd lot saying the "coins received didn't look like the coins in the picture".

    What a PITA......

    Question, I assume the shipping was $3.50 each. I assume you mailed them in the same package, which would have been about $3.50 or so, and kept the other $3.50 for yourself. Is that true?

    Even with ebay's 10%, you could have refunded $3 ($3.50 less ebay fees) as refund on excess shipping costs, even if the invoices were not combined, and most likely the seller would have been fine with that.

    This is routine for me, people buying multiple items and paying for them before I can combine the invoices, so I just refund the excess shipping costs, over what my total costs are (shipping and ebay fees) and have not problems.

    If you did put both coins in one envelope, the buyer had a right to be less than satisfied, and, IMHO, you stirred the pot with your comment, and got a negative for it.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ebay refunds the fee when you pay out of PayPal.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to long ago I was offered $100 for nice original VF35 Seated Dollar! I messaged him I would buy any G or better at his offer price!

    @Kkathyl said:
    folks are crazy. Had an offer for 50 on a 58 coin. I said, thank you for your interest but the price is too low. They sent back a nasty message about it only 8 bucks your getting most of what you ask for? I blocked them very low number account. I am thinking to myself if it was only 8 bucks, then he could of paid it. I don't mine breaking even but will be danged to take a loss on a nobody account first time purchase. Geez. And I usually throw in extra grams of silver or something. But it was the remark that turned me off.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Question, I assume the shipping was $3.50 each. I assume you mailed them in the same package, which would have been about $3.50 or so, and kept the other $3.50 for yourself. Is that true?

    Even with ebay's 10%, you could have refunded $3 ($3.50 less ebay fees) as refund on excess shipping costs, even if the invoices were not combined, and most likely the seller would have been fine with that.

    This is routine for me, people buying multiple items and paying for them before I can combine the invoices, so I just refund the excess shipping costs, over what my total costs are (shipping and ebay fees) and have not problems.

    If you did put both coins in one envelope, the buyer had a right to be less than satisfied, and, IMHO, you stirred the pot with your comment, and got a negative for it.

    I typically am a 1-2 item at a time seller. Was selling a collection for a widow I know so had 15-20 auctions ending on a Sunday for a few weekends.

    To be honest, I was just printing, packing and mailing as fast as I could on Sunday evenings so overlooked it at the time. It was when he left neutral feedback rather than emailing me that it became a problem. Had he emailed me, I would have been more than happy to issue a refund.

    Gone but not forgotten: IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal, CoinsAreFun.
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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    In a case like that (when a buyer pays before I can invoice with combined shipping), I always refund a couple bucks and send a note saying "excess postage refund".

    More often than not that buyer will become a repeat customer.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2018 4:27PM

    I learned a long time ago to take the neutral feedback and keep my mouth shut. Buyer's let emotion affect their feedback. Best not to tamper with that emotion.

    Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not to long ago I was offered $100 for nice original VF35 Seated Dollar! I messaged him I would buy any G or better at his offer price!

    This is generic to anyone selling (ie, dealers or anyone....online or bourse) that uses that line anymore.....they all need to be negged.

    So tired of hearing on these forums from dealers who get insulted by a lowball offer and make a comment like "I'll take all you can at that price", instead of just being business polite and saying "no thank you. $XXX is my price".

    Seems everyone has to try to insult someone and try to be funny about it.

    I've NEVER had a dealer say that to me...thankfully, for them. I'm not sure how I would respond, but it probably wouldn't be printable.

    I HAVE HAD dealers lowball me and I just shake it off and give them my number again or just say "no thanks" and move on.

    Not why it's so difficult of a thing to do.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    uscoinguyuscoinguy Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    He has been a seller within the last 6 months, and may yet sell again. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Totally uncalled for feedback, I'n sure.

    99%+ of buyers who buy multiple lots from me automatically wait for my invoice, or message me about combining shipping before they pay. the other <1% I refund excess shipping as soon as I get their PayPal payment.

    I do the same thing- I give them an instant refund. I just had a guy win 3 coins that totaled $450 and paid for each one as soon as he won them. My listings specifically say wait for invoice for combined shipping. I gave him back the 2.75 for the 2 additional coins and shipped them all together. I always do this because I want to avoid what happened to the OP. I have worked too hard for my 100% feedback to lose it over $5.50.

    Always trying to learn more
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2018 6:12PM

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! That was a serious offer! ~~Can you even find a CULL Seated Dollar to sell me for $100?

    Edit to add: PS The coin sold to a dealer on ebay for $470!

    ~~> @Bochiman said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not to long ago I was offered $100 for nice original VF35 Seated Dollar! I messaged him I would buy any G or better at his offer price!

    This is generic to anyone selling (ie, dealers or anyone....online or bourse) that uses that line anymore.....they all need to be negged.

    So tired of hearing on these forums from dealers who get insulted by a lowball offer and make a comment like "I'll take all you can at that price", instead of just being business polite and saying "no thank you. $XXX is my price".

    Seems everyone has to try to insult someone and try to be funny about it.

    I've NEVER had a dealer say that to me...thankfully, for them. I'm not sure how I would respond, but it probably wouldn't be printable.

    I HAVE HAD dealers lowball me and I just shake it off and give them my number again or just say "no thanks" and move on.

    Not why it's so difficult of a thing to do.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 10,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like irrational feedback, I would tip toe around trying to avoid waking up potential sleeping dogs with communication. Some others use folksy phrasing to lather em up so they don't come unglued. I don't charge for shipping. Early on I realized that buyers could snarl over shipping costs, and a couple times they were right. Roll with the punches and move on.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @georgiacop50 said:
    In a case like that (when a buyer pays before I can invoice with combined shipping), I always refund a couple bucks and send a note saying "excess postage refund".

    More often than not that buyer will become a repeat customer.

    I do the same, and it works.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The nuts never fall too far from the trees. Ebay is no exception,to this rule

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    when that happens to me, I just send the difference with cash in the order

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