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2 1/2 dollar coin no date identify please

gabe9991gabe9991 Posts: 79 ✭
edited May 19, 2018 4:43PM in U.S. Coin Forum



I have been wondering eversinse my dad gave this to me like 8 years ago what this is and why there is no date and what is made of please tell me what this is thankyou

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not a coin. Many would call it a token or a spiel mark.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well it clearly says imitation right on the round.

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    gabe9991gabe9991 Posts: 79 ✭

    I am new to all this what were the spiel marks for

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 19, 2018 7:01PM

    Thank you for posting good photos of your token.

    "Spiel Mark" = "play money". Used by kids to "play store" or for games.
    Ludwig Christian Lauer made these in Germany from 1842-1891.
    He made imitations of coins from various countries.
    They were made from various materials, such as copper and plated steel.
    Does yours stick to a magnet?
    Yours is not listed on the page below, so it may be a scarcer variety.
    It may have some value to people who collect tokens.
    http://www.jezuss.nl/la/lauer.htm

    Here is a similar one which is a $10, made of brass:
    http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=434502&inventory_id=458196&attribution_id=446523

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think of it as a 19th century poker chip made out of brass, with the manufacturer's name on it. Coin designs were a popular theme.

    Of course, many other card games use token to keep score.

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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    Thank you for posting good photos of your token.

    "Spiel Mark" = "play money". Used by kids to "play store" or for games.
    Ludwig Christian Lauer made these in Germany from 1842-1891.
    He made imitations of coins from various countries.
    They were made from various materials, such as copper and plated steel.
    Does yours stick to a magnet?
    Yours is not listed on the page below, so it may be a scarcer variety.
    It may have some value to people who collect tokens.
    http://www.jezuss.nl/la/lauer.htm

    Here is a similar one which is a $10, made of brass:
    http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=434502&inventory_id=458196&attribution_id=446523

    Nice find like how your were able to track the source thanks.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool !!! B)

    Timbuk3
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The real thing never had the motto, "In God we trust," included in the design. Perhaps they left off the date and included the motto to avoid counterfeit problems. The quarter eagle was about the size of a dime.


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good detective work.... I can remember as a kid, sometimes the adults would have a card night. If it was not penny ante, then chips of various types were used.... Though I do not recall seeing any that looked like coins. Cheers, RickO

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    gabe9991gabe9991 Posts: 79 ✭

    It does not stick to a magnet is it supposed to

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    gabe9991gabe9991 Posts: 79 ✭

    @Gluggo said:

    @yosclimber said:
    Thank you for posting good photos of your token.

    "Spiel Mark" = "play money". Used by kids to "play store" or for games.
    Ludwig Christian Lauer made these in Germany from 1842-1891.
    He made imitations of coins from various countries.
    They were made from various materials, such as copper and plated steel.
    Does yours stick to a magnet?
    Yours is not listed on the page below, so it may be a scarcer variety.
    It may have some value to people who collect tokens.
    http://www.jezuss.nl/la/lauer.htm

    Here is a similar one which is a $10, made of brass:
    http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=434502&inventory_id=458196&attribution_id=446523

    Nice find like how your were able to track the source thanks.

    It does not stick to a magnet is it supposed to

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. It is brass, which is not magnetic.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2018 2:33PM

    @Gluggo said:
    Nice find like how your were able to track the source thanks.

    I just did a google search on what I guessed was the more unique text on the coin. It yielded several links.

    coin L CHR LAUER NURNBERG
    https://www.google.com/search?q=coin+L+CHR+LAUER+NURNBERG&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS445US445&oq=coin

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    WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2024 5:56PM

    I have a similar item:

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    Spiel Marke (German Play Money) United States $20 gold coin design
    Bronze, 34mm, 17.67gm

    Obverse: Woman's head facing left with "LIBERTY" on forehead
    COMP S MARKE (Composition Spiel Marke)
    Reverse: Eagle, shield, circle of stars
    IN UNITATE FORTITUDO (In Unity Strength)
    COMPOS SPIEL MARKE (Composition Spiel Marke)

    Made by the Lauer firm of Nuremberg, Germany sometime in the 1850's.

    :)

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    gabe9991gabe9991 Posts: 79 ✭

    Thanks every one for the help

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    GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    interesting

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well Well............I learned something from this Post. You got this one right, Gabe9991. Good job!

    Pete

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat token from Germany. No idea on value, probably not too much, but a great collectable.

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