Would you pay $150 more for this coin vrs. the one that just sold on ebay?
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Would you pay $150 more for this coin vrs. the one that just sold on ebay?
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I prefer the top coin over the eBay coin.
The lighting used is so different between the images that it makes it nigh impossible to truly get a feel such as a side-by-side comparison might yield. Regardless, I prefer the ebay coin (from my interpretation of the images) vs. the one shown by the OP. Therefore, I would not pay $150 more for the coin in the OP vs. the ebay coin based simply upon the images provided.
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Here is the ebay coin for those not inclined to click the link-
Note that I own neither coin shared in this thread.
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I must say I am shocked!
I'm just guessing given the disparity in images.
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Gotta be a trick question!
bob
Agreed.
The "eBay coin" seems to have just a touch more meat and more original surfaces.
Just my .02 on a .50
Why do you say that????
I think it has less meat!
I also prefer the ebay coin. Something about the other coin looks unnatural.
Tom
Can't see $150 difference in these two coins.....therefore the trick question. Thought one might be a rare variety but have no clue as I do not even own one barber.
bob
I do like the one in the OP more the Ebay listing has a huge (to me) scratch going up the neck into the face and the dirt near the eagles head is another big turn off for me.
I would not pay $150 more for it as I don't collect circulated Barber halves so I wouldn't even pay what the Ebay listing brought.
I like the first example over the second. If they auctioned in a buyers choice fashion at that price I would choose number one. Other than that as a comparison, I don't really know how much more I would pay for the first one,-because my collection of Barber halves is almost all lower graded- but less than $150 more.
I like your eye for Barber Halves a lot.
I like David Kahn’s eye for Barber Halves a lot.
I’m not sure I see $150 worth of difference, they are both 20-25 range.
Yours has more detail, his has more desirable crust.
His went for $276 at auction, yours is a BIN for $425. Your BINs are always higher than retail for good coins.
Nothing wrong with that.
If this is a marketing survey, I’d submit that the market for a nice original 04o half in PC20 is about $300.
Would I pay PC30 money for yours?
Sometimes it doesn’t matter when the coin speaks to the buyer.
I like Dave's coins a lot also and have purchased many coins from him. I have learned very well how to interpret his pictures. What many here who have not purchased from Dave don't know...is Dave overlays a bit of lavender color to his pictures. From my experience this coin will be at least 2 shades lighter in color in hand.
And you, unlike many others who don't go after those coins which many of us Barber folks call "have the look" do understand is their is usually strong competition for those few coins that do have it! Believe me I have paid much stronger prices than for this 04-O and have also been blown outta the saddle on some coins I really wanted!
I agree with dogwoods assessment.
I appreciate your comment about the color overlay. On 2 different occasions I had coins arrive exactly as you described, much lighter in hand from DK. It’s definitely unfortunate because it can be a long time between finding coins I want to buy.
I like the appearance of the first coin (in a general sense)... However, not $150 worth of like...Cheers, RickO
My best offer / bid wb $160. I like the first coin better than the eBay coin (scratch on neck). I would sell for around $250.
The person who paid $276 won a real bid war. I bet the seller pleased. Circ Barbers a good buy if u can buy them right. I find the bidding on this material (slabbed nice VF to AU) highly competitive. Many making sets.
I recall bidding on one like this but bids way over what I pay. Heck may have been bidder on this one and I bowed out early - congrats to the winner!
No, I like the eBay coin just as much if not more.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
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https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I prefer the eBay coin. Just my opinion, but it has a bit more eye appeal.
All based on the images, would not pay any extra money!
Now, perhaps I would with coins in hand.
First coin would be my pick.Much better eye appeal.
If you have a good source for original circulated VF barber halves with this look at those prices, please do share.
i wouldn't pay the extra 150. the extra money paid would never be recovered when it's time to sell, not too many people pay over the pcgs price guide value, which is 300 dollars for this coin
It certainly helps to get to know a seller's [be it an individual or a business] photographic methods/style. this is something that is learned over time.
There are 2 ways to post eBay images. Right click and choose copy image location and paste that url in the image box like you would for a hosting site or choose save image as, give it a name on your computer and upload/post it like any other image on your hard drive. The first option is the simpler one.
This, based only on the images presented. The scratch might be a deal breaker, but still it's a CIRCULATED coin.
With respect, I like the ebay example better. I like the color and surfaces, the scratch doesn't bother me all that much.
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I'm glad many of you prefer the look of the ebay coin over mine! It's probably a hair darker and not as glowy(if that's a word). Funny thing is when a coin I need with this look comes up there is always someone or 2 or 3 out there that want it as bad as I do! Many of the coins I sell are coins I've improved the look on and paid strong money for. They don't eat anything so if I can't get my money out of them I will keep them!
As to PCGS priceguide...it is pretty much my greysheet number for coins like this. I wonder what PCGS would do with the sales results on the $750,000+ worth of F-AU coins I have sold in the past 5 years? Of course the problem is most are nice coins like the one I posted and all have sold for over PCGS priceguide....some multiples! Personally I don't like the ebay coin or I wouldda bought it! There are also many coins out there quite inferior to the ebay coin. I've about come to the conclusion that 1/2 of the coins out there graded now I don't like and hence the low priceguide numbers.
They both look really nice. Why not buy both?
Start a Barber stickering service?? Get the prices up for the 1/2 that are PQ.
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Two basically properly graded coins. Based on the photography the Ebay coin has a nice original look to it but there's a very thin scratch on the portrait. Its just a preference thing. No price difference, IMO.
I was going to choose the eBay coin, because I like the skin better, as it has really nice color but I don't like that scratch. Therefore, I think that, overall, the OP's coin would be my final choice.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
You can go by my pictures...Take a look at my earlier post! The ebay coin will be lighter in hand! While I am not the best photographer...I have never had a complaint on my pictures and those who comment say the coins are nicer in hand!
Ditto to my reply to Walkerfan!
Dave Kahn is THE BOMB! He is one of the few dealers I would readily buy a coin from sight unseen. His integrity is beyond reproach and he is open and transparent about his coins (i.e., he doesn't hype his pieces). He and Brian Greer should be models for other dealers. Dave's coins sell on eBay for a strong market value for the coin. He has an excellent following with competitive bidding (especially with CBHs) and his prices realized should be considered the market for these coins.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
I agree with everything you say except 1 thing! I don't think his prices realized should be considered the market!
Dave takes a big gamble selling the way he does(Dave looks at the overall results...not coin by coin and looses money on some of his sales). I can't count the times I've seen his coins fall through the cracks and sell way too cheap! Time after time you will see his coins sell and be back up on ebay within a week or to with a Buy it Now with a profitable mark up and they sell!
I hope no one thinks I started this thread as a slight to Dave. He is a good friend and the most honest,open dealer I know! I wish I had known how to just snag the photo so I didn't show him as the seller....but then again one of the sleuth's around here would have linked the ebay listing to the thread!
Count me as a Dave Kahn fan too.
I know his camera issues intimately. Before I buy based on his photos I do a white balance adjustment to temperature and tint. FWIW, this coin looks more like this.
Lance.
We can 'agree to disagree' somewhat regarding Dave's coins and the market in that I believe his sales more accurately reflect the coin's true market most of the time (not the retail 'I think it should sell for this price' market. [As an aside, his Internet sales reflect a premium market (you will pay for nice coins)]. That's my opinion ... then again, I am not a market maker ... just a collector.
Of course, some coins will slip through the cracks ... just like any auction. He has a strong following of knowledgable collectors of Seated, Barber, and Bust material. I have rarely seen quality pieces (at least the ones I watch) not realize the appropriate value.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
I'll give my opinion on this too as someone who buys off ebay quite a bit. I think some of the dealers who either specialize in Barbers or carry a large inventory always try to drive the prices up for their own benefit. There are plenty of coins that get purchased by dealers who have a large amount of barber inventory, and marked up and put back on Ebay. You see it all the time, and my own opinion is they are trying to drive up the prices across the board for the coins, rather than trying to just make money on that one coin.
I could be wrong but that is the impression and if you search the inventories of those dealers, you can find the coins and see what is happening.
Dave's example is much, much nicer, IMO. Looks original. The other one looks unnatural to my eyes.
Dave
Really! Perhaps it's my lighting but they don't come much nicer than this IMHO!
Edit to add...if you had a rating for surface quality from 1-10 10 being the highest I would give my coin a 9+ and the other a 5.
Just my .02 cents, given the two sets of images. I'd be happy with either!
Dave
I don't collect these halves as a series, but I know I would not pay $150 more for coin #1, it's not a 'monster' or anything like that. I also happen to like both coins.
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Well...at least there are a few that can see the difference in quality and value in my coin....and that's all it takes!