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Please report - 2 modern counterfeit 1893-O Morgan's on eBay (same seller)

KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

All, please report these two Morgan dollars to eBay as they are high-quality modern counterfeits. I contacted the seller who INSISTS they are real - note his most recent negative feedback which states that he has sold counterfeits in the past. I just don't want a potential buyer to get burned on these.

An easy way to ID these two as counterfeit is from the reverse. Note the wide neck-right wing gap (C4 type). This reverse type was not used until 1901; all Morgan dollar reverses used before 1901 had a very narrow neck-right wing gap.

That said, there are two known contemporary counterfeit Morgan dollars with the wrong, C4 reverse (VAM 6 and VAM 7) - see the following link: http://www.vamworld.com/ Listed Privately Made Varieties; these belong to the larger, 'Micro O' family of counterfeit Morgan dollars. The two pieces on eBay are not either VAM 6 or VAM 7 - both of which used the same obverse die. An easy way to tell this is the Dentil to '1' position in the date. In the VAM 6 and VAM 7 counterfeits there is a dentil just right of center of the upright of the '1'. On these two counterfeits the dentil is left of the central upright of the '1'. Further, it does not appear as though these two ebay counterfeits are related to the 'Micro O' counterfeit family, but instead are high-grade modern counterfeits.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-O-Morgan-Silver-Dollar/192531032402?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-O-Morgan-Silver-Dollar/202305283055?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Thanks for your assistance.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Almost all his listings are for fakes. Lots of solds, too.
    His Vermont he has up has been sold before and positive feedback was left.
    reported.

    Total scammer.
    bob :(

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Bob. I admit I didn't look at any more of this sellers listings!

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2018 11:59AM

    Selling a Roanoake describing an Antietam. Wow just wow. Nothing in a slab of course.

  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmmmm....
    I sent one little message to him about his counterfeit coins and suddenly he pulled all of his auctions.
    Perhaps it was the way I worded it.

    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @UtahCoin said:
    Hmmmmm....
    I sent one little message to him about his counterfeit coins and suddenly he pulled all of his auctions.
    Perhaps it was the way I worded it.

    It appears, that he didn't voluntarily pull his auctions. eBay did...at least the 2 that Koinicker linked.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    The seller told me he removed all the auctions 'until he can authenticate them.'

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is his Ebay name so I can put him on my " DO NOT BUY FROM "? TYIA

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    What is his Ebay name so I can put him on my " DO NOT BUY FROM "? TYIA

    +1

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh no !!! :s

    Timbuk3
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad to hear they have been pulled.... I believe this person's auctions have been flagged here before as well. Looks like a serial con artist.... Cheers, RickO

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