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What do you think of this PL Dollar?

GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 1, 2018 5:39PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I won this at Great Collections Sunday night.


Can't get them the same size :(

GrandAm :)

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like JA has approved. Congrats.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pictures are too small to say for sure, but given the largest photo of the obverse, it looks like it's a good buy.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 1, 2018 7:36PM

    Thanks for blowing up the photos.

    This isn't the highest grade Morgan that I own but I think it is the most attractive one.

    I hope it looks this good in hand.

    GrandAm :)
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the obverse frost.

  • JcldJcld Posts: 449 ✭✭✭

    Looks like a great coin, nice pick up

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not bad. That date is known for amazing mirrors and frosty devices

    The more you VAM..
  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a top end 63

  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice JA approved PL Morgan. I like the original die polishing lines on the reverse, they put a spit shine on this one.

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks nice for a 63 to my eye.

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very attractive

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the pictures, the reverse seems to have amazing mirrors.... Nice coin... Cheers, RickO

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has an icy look to it. I like!

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it!

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty Coin.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does anyone know the details for determining DMPL? I beleive that you have to be able to see a printed reflection but not sure from how far away.

    Not saying this coin is DMPL but would like to know how to check.

    Thanks, GrandAm

    GrandAm :)
  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    Does anyone know the details for determining DMPL? I beleive that you have to be able to see a printed reflection but not sure from how far away.

    Not saying this coin is DMPL but would like to know how to check.

    Thanks, GrandAm

    Determining if a coin is prooflike or deep-mirror prooflike can be difficult to even the most experienced collectors. The most reliable way is to hold the coin on a newspaper and see how many lines you can clearly see reflected on the coin. A prooflike coin should have a minimum of 2-4 inches visible, while for a coin to be a deep-mirror prooflike it should have as much as 6-8 inches of lines clearly visible. The third party grading company PCGS uses the designations DMPL or PL on their holders, while NGC uses DPL and PL. In order to receive the designation, both sides of the coin must exhibit the necessary characteristics.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2018 2:25PM

    @HighRelief said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    Does anyone know the details for determining DMPL? I beleive that you have to be able to see a printed reflection but not sure from how far away.

    Not saying this coin is DMPL but would like to know how to check.

    Thanks, GrandAm

    Determining if a coin is prooflike or deep-mirror prooflike can be difficult to even the most experienced collectors. The most reliable way is to hold the coin on a newspaper and see how many lines you can clearly see reflected on the coin. A prooflike coin should have a minimum of 2-4 inches visible, while for a coin to be a deep-mirror prooflike it should have as much as 6-8 inches of lines clearly visible. The third party grading company PCGS uses the designations DMPL or PL on their holders, while NGC uses DPL and PL. In order to receive the designation, both sides of the coin must exhibit the necessary characteristics.

    From what distance from the paper?

    2-4 lines or inches at what distance?

    OK, do you just pull the coin away from the paper until you determine how many lines you can see?

    GrandAm :)
  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Google is your friend,,,,,

    A. There are a couple of ways to tell the difference between DMPL, PL, and SPL Morgan Dollars. The most common way, and probably the most reliable, is to hold the coin on its edge next to a page of printed matter (such as a newspaper) where you have marked off the inches. You should have good light directed towards the coin (but not directly into the coin such that is reflecting.) Then, look into the coin's mirrored surface and see how far down the scale you can clearly read the text.

    GrandAm :)
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info,,,,, I will try this when I get it in-hand.

    GrandAm :)
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the frosting is incredible on the coin.

    GrandAm :)
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2018 3:06PM

    The plastic holder doesn’t affect the reflective measurement?

    GrandAm :)
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those scare me when I can't see the actual coin.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    <3 She is pretty....Congratulation!

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:
    A quick example of how to measure the depth of mirrors using my crappy camera on my phone... In-hand, the mirrors on this coin exceed 10 inches. But even in these images, you can clearly read the 8" mark, so it's a DMPL (at least on the obverse). Just want to add this is a nice example of why you cannot rely on pics like these to determine the depth of mirrors on a coin, focus can be manipulated to make mirrors deeper than they really are. The lack of cartwheel is one of the most obvious, blatant tells of a knockout DMPL. Note that the presence of cartwheel isn't necessarily a disqualifying factor for PL/DMPL though, thanks to weird strike characteristics on some dates.

    Thanks for that tip. It just helped me to confirm my 1900-O as a DMPL as I can read out to the 9 on the obverse and 10 on the reverse. :)

    Justin Lee Numismatic Photography



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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some very pretty coins here!!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, that looks really nice. good score to

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