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Grade this 1885 P Morgan?

Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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Found this the other day but they want $60, love the midnight blue toning on the obverse. Looks like to me a typical MS 62-63? Some big bag marks on the cheek though. Thoughts?



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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the reverse saves a 63 call. If it was baggy, then it would be a 62.

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 obverse with 63/64 reverse...62+ and nice coin...if you like it, buy it ;)

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    O-62/R-63 !!! :)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62/63....seems a bit expensive... must be the tarnish premium. Cheers, RickO

  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse 61---Reverse 63, so I would be comfortable calling it a 62.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62 here.

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61 and ugly. I am not a fan of this type of toning.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 62. The cheek holds it down to this.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $40 coin or so. I would not stretch out much for that puppy.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63, common date and in serious need of a dip. $60 is much too high, you can have a nice white slabbed one in the $40 range if you look around for it.

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  • davids5104davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭

    The prettiness of the blue is limited by the ugliness of the brown. No for 60 bucks. The cheeks are too beat up. This coin is always is going to be available with better color or less bag marks for this same price point. I would wait.

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  • JcldJcld Posts: 449 ✭✭✭

    62 for me, I don't like that big hit on Libby's cheek

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61/62...not a good buy at $60.

  • sarikanairsarikanair Posts: 154 ✭✭✭

    I think you over paid for this coin.

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the old days....
    BU was a 60, CHBU was a 63 and GBU was a 65.
    Well you could sometimes find a high end BU grading 62 but you could also see a low end
    CHBU grading 61-62 etc.
    This one looks like a low end CHBU with the usual reverse outshining the obverse.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The obverse is no better than MS-62. The reverse is MS-64, but the obverse rules. The color is attractive, but does not rate a premium.

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  • Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone! I have since passed on this coin, I really appreciate the help!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The obverse is no better than MS-62. The reverse is MS-64, but the obverse rules. The color is attractive, but does not rate a premium.

    @BillJones said:
    The obverse is no better than MS-62. The reverse is MS-64, but the obverse rules. The color is attractive, but does not rate a premium.

    Looks like a dipped and album retoned coin.

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Light strike a lot on the cheek I would say that 60 is high for the coin. Has some rim issue too. Offer 45. If you like it for the toning.

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2018 8:49AM

    $30, $40 coin tops. For $60 you can find a certified 64 or a raw gem with better color if you search a little bit, even on ebay.

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