Some 1840's gold eagles with crossover results and true view images
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For fans of earlier gold I am sharing my cross over results and images for a few pieces recently submitted to PCGS. Results are as follows:
1840: NGC AU55 to PCGS AU55
1843: NGC XF details scratched reverse ( I thought was ridiculous and apparently PCGS agreed) to PCGS XF40
1845: NGC XF45 to PCGS XF45
1848: NGC AU58 to PCGS AU55; kind of thought this would happen so lowered my minimum cross over grade to this. Maybe crazy for sending it in, but I prefer PCGS judgement / holders / goldshield / truviews for my long term collection
Sharing my images below:
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Excellent results and splendid coins!
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nice results. i like the 48 best.
i know what you mean about having it in a pcgs holder.
Nice coins! I like the color on the 43 and 45.
Overall pretty nice, I like the 48 best, 40 least and think the 45 is an under rated date.
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Very nice coins!
(Can you cut the images to about 1000 pixels wide for posting, so they don't clog bandwidth?)
Nice job and nice coins.
Thanks for everyone’s thoughts! I can reduce the photo sizes - do not have access to the photos today
What’s the bandwidth problem? Is someone connecting with AOL?
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Very nice old gold and good results... Are you building a set of old Eagles? Mildly circulated gold coins have a look of 'gravitas' that denotes commerce and history. Cheers, RickO
RickO - yes, I am focusing on the 1840's $10 Philadelphia pieces in lightly circulated condition just as you note, with the history of some usage on them. These seem to me to be just really great and rare original pieces for their current cost. They also predate the gold rush which is interesting. I am from PA not far from Philadelphia so these would have been the coins that circulated in my area.
For example I found the 1843 that I bought for bullion value - that is nuts considering there are only an estimated 175 of them total in existence.
The 1840 is actually very pretty and lustrous in hand - I am slightly color blind so I may be at a disadvantage with color preferences on these. Of the 47,338 of the 1840's originally minted, I like to think it looks better than maybe 47,300 of them! (haha). It looked to be fairly free of significant marks.
And I agree completely with Boosibri about the 1845 I think that is a real rarity and I found that for essentially no premium over common dates. I also have a few more (including another 1840 / a beautiful AU 1841 with a small scratch that I found for just over bullion cost / 1842 SD x 2) that I want to get regraded / reholdered and true viewed. Someday I'd like to have an 1844 in any condition if budget allows.
For the smaller denom's, I also have obtained a couple $2.50's from Philadelphia (1840 / 1846) and a few $5's (1841 / 1846 SD x 2 / 1847 with a seven on Liberty's neck / 1849). I'd love to find 1842 $5 in any grade someday.
Nice coins...I'd guess that PCGS net graded your 43 for the scratch on the Reverse versus giving it a details grade...nice color on it...personally I like your 48 the best...
Thanks for sharing, nice coin. In PCGS looks better plus the true view photo really looks good compare with NGC photo. Can't believe NGC won't try to improve their services.
I have owned many of the best 1842 $5’s and have made all LL at CAC, own the Hayes/Milas LL and owned the Milas SL in 65 CAC. My absolute favorite issue of any series.
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Boosibri - do you still have them? They would all be “keepers” to me and a very sound investmet.
Great results congratulations and great coins as well
I have the Large Letter Ex Jimmy Hayes / Ed Milas coin. I sold the N65 CAC Small Letter.
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the 1842-D Large Date Large Letters is also very under rated
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Very nice 42's, I would hold onto those. Your philly 1842 looks more like a 58 to me. I agree that 1842 is one of the best and under rates collectible gold dates of all
and it is my favorite Philly eagle (small date for the eagle). Here are photos of my two 1842 SD's (only the EF has true view so far):
One more for ya... the 42 QE is the toughest QE from Philly of the 40’s, 50’s until the Civil War dates. It is a bit of a faux rarity as in the early 19th century the 1842 was mistaken for the 1841 QE. Still there are roughly 50-60 known and still quite scarce.
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@historybuff If you search “1842” I’ve written a fair bit on the date on the forum.
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I enjoy the hint of red on the 1843 reverse. I bet it looks even nicer in hand!
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Boosibri, the 42 QE is cool, yet another that would be great to have one day. My ‘40 QE is very original EF but has an ancient toned scratch on the obv. Also I believe a rarity.
davids5104 - did not know about the red tint on the ‘43 due to my “color handicap”. Interesting thanks. It looks really nice in hand, very original.
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What a courage to send it in to PCGS knowing they are on the conservative side. Congrats on your beautiful coins!