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ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

Interestingly, the new 2019 standard edition of the Red Book no longer list individual prices for each date / mint mark for these series below. Instead, it appears to have a narrative of each series, along with a price range for the more common issues, and selectively lists certain coins in the series that carry a higher premium.

Silver Eagles
Gold Eagles
ATB Silver coins
Buffalo Gold
First Spouse Gold
Platinum Eagles
Palladium Eagles

Also can't seem to find the American Arts Gold Medallion series yet, so this may have been dropped.

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it because too wide of the price range?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the problems is that the mint is issuing so much stuff that the Red Book going to look like phone book if they keep listing everything.

    The Spink British coin price guide is now in two volumes. The book looks like the traditional edition of the book. The decimal coinage is in a separate paperback book.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everything you listed is bullion. Not coins per se.

    bob :)

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  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 10:48AM

    I received a copy of the 4th (2019) edition Mega Red Book on Monday 9 April and it still has individual listings by date and Mint mark for all these coin series. The American Arts Gold medallions seem to be AWOL.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Medallions are not coins by any standard.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillDugan1959 said:
    I received a copy of the 4th (2019) edition Mega Red Book on Monday 9 April and it still has individual listings by date and Mint mark for all these series.

    They kind of refer to that in the standard Red Book, that one will find those listings there.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 10:45AM

    @Smudge said:
    Medallions are not coins by any standard.

    True. But the Red Book is full of things that are not coins. This edition even includes the new modern silver Presidential and World War I silver medals.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Editorial decision, editor and publisher has the final say.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it makes sense, rather than listing the same price over and over.

    @AUandAG said:
    Everything you listed is bullion. Not coins per se.

    bob :)

    The real value is the bullion +- a small premium [maybe] for most of those.

    JMO :smile:

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  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They also included the 2017 Enhanced Uncirculated Mint Set in this edition, but (wisely, perhaps?) refrained from assigning it a value.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Medallions are not coins by any standard.

    Maybe they have all been melted by now? >:)

    All glory is fleeting.
  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    One of the problems is that the mint is issuing so much stuff that the Red Book going to look like phone book if they keep listing everything.

    Exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps the Red Book will publish a volume 2 precisely for these coins.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So there might be two volumes?

    Vol 1 - A Guide Book of United States Coins
    Vol 2 - NCLT and Bullion Stuff

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2018 6:40AM

    @RogerB said:
    So there might be two volumes?

    Vol 1 - A Guide Book of United States Coins
    Vol 2 - NCLT and Bullion Stuff

    As noted, the U.K. is ahead of U.S. In these matters. Effectively, the U.K. had a better more distinct dividing line (pre-decimal and decimal) than America would have.

    But with the Mega Red Book format already in place (firmly, it seems to me), perhaps they won't have to do the regular Red Book in two volumes.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As long as one of the books contain the listings I am happy.... I have been real happy with the Mega Red....will continue with that one. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2018 11:00AM

    @ernie11 said:

    @Smudge said:
    Medallions are not coins by any standard.

    True. But the Red Book is full of things that are not coins. This edition even includes the new modern silver Presidential and World War I silver medals.

    The World War medals do not belong in the Red Book. Ditto for the silver presidential medals. They are not coins. If you are going to include those pieces then why not include all of the medals that the mint issued? Then it would have to be a coffee table book instead.

    Time was getting in the Red Book used to be highly political. Getting in the book boosted the value of the piece, which was usuallly a die variety of some sort. Maybe that's the game here with some the contributors using their clout.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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