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ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Any info would be greatly appreciated...

~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yours?
    or a picture of one?

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2018 4:23PM

    @Treashunt said:
    yours?
    or a picture of one?

    Ebay, local seller, picked it up today.

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
  • 1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 464 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing sample slab, or mechanical error.

    1TwoBits

    Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the color of the insert can fade.....but not the lettering!!!

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2018 6:00AM

    Seller had 4 examples, all one cent. 04/03-2018
    1959
    1960-D
    1963
    1966

    Different listing 04/06-2018
    1967

    Guessing Sample

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are put into selective boxes every so often to make sure the QC guys are not sleeping on the job. NOT!

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe someone cracked it and was going to make there own insert?

    New inventory added daily at Coins Make Cents
    HAPPY COLLECTING


  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems there are just too many of them from a single generation to be a mechanical error.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    Seems there are just too many of them from a single generation to be a mechanical error.

    How many have you seen?

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Practice slabs for new equipment operators?

    (Of course, you could seal slabs WITHOUT coins, and get the same practice.....)

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • PennyGuyPennyGuy Posts: 152 ✭✭✭

    I was one of the underbidders on that series of listings. Earlier this year I bought one for $60, but never received it, lost at the Kansas City USPS sorting center.

    "A penny hit by lightning is worth six cents". Opie Taylor

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep...looks like early sample slabs... Though I have seen many sample slabs, I have not seen one's with blank labels before. Cheers, RickO

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no quality control there. just saying

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Information is so overrated.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are the holders that force you to buy the coin

    Collector, occasional seller

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is they are samples of some sort.

    My YouTube Channel

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Several showed up about 2 years ago IIRC. Sold then for strong prices.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Several showed up about 2 years ago IIRC. Sold then for strong prices.

    Same type (5), or different?

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting.

    Toned Franklins

    U.S. Type Set
  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are the built in guess the grade slabs made with invisible ink. Get it under a black light.

  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One more, someone got it...

    1967
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Lincoln-Cent-Penny-Coin-PCGS-Sample-Slab-No-Text-Old-Holder-/372269730174?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=GCA84jgi1%2B1zSqpPsuIPw%2FOIPsk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2018 10:50AM

    I was bidding on those up to 40 each. Kinda neat but wouldn't have paid more than 30 (kinda got away with bids). I do hope, though, that whoever won them are happy with their purchases.

    The market and interest in samples keeps going up. Good thing bad thing, depends if buying or selling.

    Gives me hope for listing my 1964d sample in a 1964 slab.

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any with beans?

  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Clearly undergraded. Send it in for a bean.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have seen 20-30 or so. Hard to know how many could be repeats since there aren't serial numbers.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing written on the label in UV ink.
    It's the one piece post rattler generation.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm with the majority here. Some kind of sample. Strange.

    Since they are encapsulating common dates, and there are numerous examples, it seems to follow that they were purposefully manufactured.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 7:03PM

    Cross linking the threads: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/997442/the-official-pcgs-blank-label-slab-census (since I can't keep them straight).

    In David Schwager's book, this is ** PCGS-001-3-1** (page 307-308)

    He indicates known as of publication (2016): 1959, 1959-D, 1960, 1960-D, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964-D, 1967, 1968-D, 1974

    This slab is not exactly a sample, novelty, promotional or any other type of holder covered in this book. It is a mystery, and I include it because it is of interest to collectors of unusual slabs. The design matches other generation 3 PCGS green label holders but the front of the label is completely blank. An eBay seller known as Kryptonite Comics sold 14 of these at two to three week intervals from June through December 2014. Prices ranged from $255 for the first slab to $45.55 for the last, with an average of about $110. The seller said that he did not know their origin.

    When I took one to the PCGS booth at a show, the customer service rep looked at me like I was trying to hand her a dead fish and refused to touch it, saying it could be counterfeit. At a later show, PCGS had a Meet the Expert event where anyone could ask David Hall a question. On seeing the holder, he simply said, “No idea,” and returned it to me.

    I showed the slab to many collectors, including two former PCGS employees. They had several guesses, including a prototype, a sample given to customers for evaluation, a holder made while testing, repairing, or otherwise working with the sealing machine, a holder made while training the machine operator, or a training tool for graders. Because all contain worthless coins, the slabs do not appear to be errors. The real answer, however, is that I do not know what this is.

    He valued these at $150 which turns out to be close to the recent sales.

    David is aware of the most recent sales.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 7:11PM

    @BStrauss3
    Very cool, thanks for the info,

    ~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~
    POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
    Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 7:21PM

    I'd say it's an "error slab" ;)

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now if anyone bought one in 2014 and has the eBay auction # we can use listingshistory.com to look it up, figure out the keywords and search for the rest.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭

    @ECHOES said:
    One more, someone got it...

    1967
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Lincoln-Cent-Penny-Coin-PCGS-Sample-Slab-No-Text-Old-Holder-/372269730174?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=GCA84jgi1%2B1zSqpPsuIPw%2FOIPsk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

    Maybe they paid that price hoping for an upgrade . . .

    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!

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