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1846 Gold $5 Half Eagle - reverse die issue?

This reverse has a weird defect along the top of "AMERICA". Can anyone explain what causes this? This is an NGC certified and it is not damage like from being on jewelry or anything like that. Thanks for any help. Could this be some sort of attributable variety?

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    tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a die crack to me. I like it a lot.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 10:58AM

    double post

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 10:56AM

    Die crack that has progressed to a die break. In a later die stage, it is possible that a piece of the die fell off, which would leave a cud in over AME. Actually, the dentils over AME show some separation and are breaking away from the other dentils, which is the early stage of a retained cud.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a possible/potential retained cud,
    or darn close, that's for sure.

    I've seen this die crack before on that date.

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    historybuffhistorybuff Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info!

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that a large date or small date 1846 $5?

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    historybuffhistorybuff Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    This is the small date variety

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    historybuffhistorybuff Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    I was reading more about die cracks and cuds online - this is all new to me. Does anyone have a reference book that mentions about die errors in this series? Thanks again. I will look at the obverse to see if there is anything noticeable in that spot.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As has been mentioned, a die crack... and close to being terminal .... Very interesting gold coin... probably nothing apparent on the obverse....Cheers, RickO

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @historybuff said:
    I was reading more about die cracks and cuds online - this is all new to me. Does anyone have a reference book that mentions about die errors in this series? Thanks again. I will look at the obverse to see if there is anything noticeable in that spot.

    AFAIK, NO.

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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    A quick search of the Newman Portal (they list 47 coins for 1846 sm dates)
    I found about 5 with that die break after seeing about 20 coins.
    Heritage Auctions lists quite a few sm date listings.

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    historybuffhistorybuff Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Interesting guys, thanks. Here is the obverse - may be a ghost of a line near the stars opposite the nose and forehead, and affected "teeth" (what are they called?) near the star opposite the nose, or maybe it is just my imagination. If it is, it is very subtle. Hard to tell as the coin is so small - not sure if this crack would even extend to the obverse?

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2018 12:13AM

    Die cracks typically don't go from one side of the coin to the other as each side of the coin is formed by a separate die.

    It's your imagination. :)

    Neat coin, by the way, and thanks for sharing....Mike

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.

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