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My first CW ad: LOTS OF RATTLERS!

MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 1, 2018 12:03PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This ad appeared in Coin World in 1988. Interesting to see how relative values have changed over the years! Even more interesting to know from first hand experience that similarly wild shifts in relative values are destined to happen again and again and again.

Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1893 Columbian Half NGC 66 at $5950!

    1876-CC 20C Piece NGC 65 at 110K!

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Man that was a heck of a group of coins!

    Latin American Collection

  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2018 12:34PM

    Why doesn't anyone answer the phone?

    Sunshine Rare Coins

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how many of those have since been upgraded.

    peacockcoins

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some cool opportunities in that group! I'd like to request the price on the PanPac double set...

    Although, in 1988 the SP500 was at $266...

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take the 09s Indian for 995.00 lol

    Amazing group of coins there

    New inventory added daily at Coins Make Cents
    HAPPY COLLECTING


  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow - I'll take the patterns!

    What does "struck from straited dies mean"?? :D

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how many of those NGC holders are of the 1.0 and 2.1 variety? Or how many of the PCGS were the white label rattlers. Such a cool piece of history there. Sure shows how the market has changed a bit since then.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3 - 1895 Proof Morgans?
    2 - 1876cc double dimes???

    Whoa, some heady stuff there Andy!

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would love to see a pic of the PF68 Barber half

    Early Dollar Set
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka,

    A 30 year old ad, with this quality of material? You must've been a young sprout then, so it's even more amazing that you had all this stuff. One thing I noticed: no world coins in the ad.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat add, thanks for sharing. Some big coins listed in that add.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2018 8:01PM

    Some big coins for such a then young man! Those Commem prices were lofty! And I wonder where that 1807 Small Stars half in NGC 65 is today?

    Tom

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing - and all of that at 14 years old.

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, that was fun to think about for a while.

  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, what a group of coins. The listing that caught my eye was the Pan-Pacific double set with the original copper frame!

    Jeff

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The link is gone.....

    My Ebay Coin Store
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2, 2018 6:43AM

    My father in law just gave me an old Coin world from 2007. I saw a coin going for $17,000. I picked up that same coin , ten years later (last year) for $8400 including the juice. You been around forever, it seems... Andy.

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's like the DuPont Registry, for coins.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Andy - I’ll sell you my 1895 PR 68 D Cam Barber Half for $ 64,950 .
    That’s 30 years after your ad. If it’s a good deal for you,it’s a good deal for me.

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Kellogg $50 has me reaching for the phone.

    Rick Snow, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, Inc.Check out my new web site:
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a question from someone "outside the business":

    What kind of response did an ad like this generate? Would you expect a couple of inquiries? Crazy ringing phones, and questions and offers on MOST of the coins? 2 or 3 sales? An emptied inventory?

    To me, there is something completely incongruous about a news-print advertisement, and items selling for 10's of thousands of dollars. Of course, I guess this is/was THE newspaper of the hobby.....

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sign me up for the 1841 quarter eagle

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, definitely some cool coins in that ad.
    Drooling over the 1876-CC 20c pair, 1838-O half, and 1895 Morgan.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that's what I call a high end inventory!!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool!

    My YouTube Channel

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very choice and high end "caviar" for the upper crust. When certification was still new, I'm curious how many of the dealers reacted to this new phenomenal of slabbing in the beginning.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the area code still 201? I remember when NJ had only 201 & 609! LOL..

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • JohnFJohnF Posts: 341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a single CAC sticker...

    John Feigenbaum
    Whitman Brands: President/CEO (www.greysheet.com; www.whitman.com)
    PNG: Executive Director (www.pngdealers.org)
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinRaritiesOnline said:
    Andy was Laura Sperber before Laura Sperber was Laura Sperber.

    For the record, I do know how to spell "striated".

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In retrospect, I wonder how someone smart enough to recognize that 1838-O Half Dollars and 1876-CC Twenty Cent Pieces were bargains was also stupid enough to stock Elgins in 66 at close to 3K. Makes me wonder where my blind spots are today.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinRaritiesOnline said: Andy was Laura Sperber before Laura Sperber was Laura Sperber.

    For the record, I do know how to spell "striated".

    :D Sorry Andy, but just had to have some fun.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The real secret is that Andy didn't sell any of them. He has them stored away in his personal "vault."

    Tom

  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The market, and the world, is big enough for only one Laura.

    @CoinRaritiesOnline said:
    Andy was Laura Sperber before Laura Sperber was Laura Sperber.

    And, I can think of a more accurate, and less funny, comparison.

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • NicNic Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Superb listing!

    I sold an NGC 67 Vancouver for 12k in 1988.

    Beautiful Barber half!

    My 1866 Philly Mint Set

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It really is interesting to see such an ad... and reflect on prices then and now for different coins.... Many - if not most - of us, have lived through that period, and looking back can be a tad jarring. Now, if we could see 30 years in the future, I am sure there are amazing opportunities....If only there were such a thing as crystal balls...
    that really could reveal the future. Much like psychics or fortune tellers that never win the lottery.....Cheers, RickO

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll take the small-eagle half dollar, thank you.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 6:47AM

    No web site, email address or cell number?
    Shoddy business practice if you ask me. ;)

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coins are always great coins.

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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love this!

    That was a lead up to an insane market.

    J

    siliconvalleycoins.com

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    I wonder how many of those have since been upgraded.

    .......after being dipped or retoned (pick your choice).

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 10:28AM

    @MrEureka

    Any idea of what the asking price was for the Pan Pac double set back in 1988?

    Also I guess 1895 Morgan proofs in 65 were 'widgets' back then since you had 3 of them ;)

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think we were just coming out of the market crash then with gold at $410 & silver at $6
    How intriguing to see it all in that perspective. Thank you for posting.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 11:33AM

    @10000lakes said:
    @MrEureka
    Any idea of what the asking price was for the Pan Pac double set back in 1988?

    *note an article in Los Angeles Times dated Feb 04/1988 in "My Coin" section; the partial answer of $50 Pan Pac price range is $10,000 - $30,000; with the rounds commanding higher price due to their lower mintage of 483 compare to 645 octagonal ones.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    @10000lakes said:
    @MrEureka
    Any idea of what the asking price was for the Pan Pac double set back in 1988?

    I probably had half a dozen Pan Pac $50's at the time, so the double set was going to be based on which of the coins the buyer wanted. Crazy but true. Anyway, a double set in 63 (easily today's 64's) with the frame would have been about 200K.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 11:45AM

    I remember sitting through the 1988 ANA sales in Cincinnati and recalling how weak the 1876-cc 20c piece(s) bidding went. $75K-$85K for MS65/66 is what I recall. Briefly considered raising my hand...until reality took hold...lol.

    1884 seated dime in PCGS MS65PQ for $2900. Yikes. 66's today are about a fifth of that. Andy was the Mr. PQ before the current "Mr PQ," Larry Shepard.

    In 1988 I had to beg dealers to buy my 1846 Tall Date NGC MS65 half for $4200. I recall that Lee Bellisario "bailed me out on it" at Baltimore. Today it's in a 66 holder and traded hands over $20K not long ago.

    Didn't know that Columbian Halves in MS66 were underappreciated rarities back then...and finally getting recognition. Or was that recognition from "Telemarketers" who bailed on this market in 1990/1991 and dropped prices around 65% in about a year?

    Hackensack, NJ....Conrad "Corky" Vena's old stomping grounds.

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2018 11:32AM

    @MrEureka
    Do you own any?

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sparky64 said:
    No web site, email address or cell number?
    Shoddy business practice if you ask me. ;)

    Some things never change!

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.

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