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My new toned gold Medal purchase. Does pcgs grade these? UPDATE

jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 26, 2018 2:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I used my ebay bucks to buy this. Any idea if ngc or pcgs would grade these? I would love to get it in a holder either way. 1976 Bi-Centenary of Cook's 3rd voyage gold medal. 9k gold, 30.7g, 42mm. Designed by James Berry & issued by Eastern & Central Savings Bank.

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it has nice relief. Cool medal with an nice, aged look to it.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very nice medal and with a nautical theme.... There is a pair in silver and bronze on ebay right now.... Cheers, RickO

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finally arrived from Australia today. The relief on this thing is amazing! I would love to get it in a pcgs or ngc holder. Anyone have any insight on if this is possible?







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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why would you need to have it graded? The market for these probably doesn't care about slabs.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am mainly just wanting to get it into a nice holder for protection. I don't like it in a flip.

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    mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice medal... I love high-relief medals like this and this one has great color . Good luck getting it certified! This is a link to the list of medals that PCGS currently certifies... NGC probably has something similar: https://pcgs.com/tokensandmedals

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I ended up sending it to NGC, and it is finally scheduled for grading, and it looks like they have it listed as Bronze. What the heck?? Is there a chance this is bronze? Here is a pictures of what the silver and bronze ones are supposed to look like:

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How much is the bronze one supposed to weigh? How does that compare to yours?

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not sure, it's hard finding info about them. Should they be able to easily scan it and see if it is 9k gold?

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018 3:01PM

    Really nice medal - great colors!

    Would think that heavy gold plate would look better than 9k gold. At just 0.375 fine, the color and other properties of gold are lost.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought it looked like bronze in your pics, but I have no experience with these. Are you sure it isn't 9K gold plated bronze, for example? Even at 9K seems odd to make it as large as the others. But that is just speculation on my part. The color is interesting but very "diverse".

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would imagine that NGC would have an XRF scanner to at least confirm it. Have you called them to double check it?

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jtlee321 said:
    I would imagine that NGC would have an XRF scanner to at least confirm it. Have you called them to double check it?

    I saw it a few minutes after they closed for the day. I will call tomorrow.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018 4:27PM

    9 karat gold means the medal is made up of 15 parts “other” metal. 9 parts gold and 15 parts other. It’s going to be called bronze I’m afraid

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    9 karat gold means the medal is made up of 15 parts “other” metal. 9 parts gold and 15 parts other. It’s going to be called bronze I’m afraid

    m

    Even if they have a silver and bronze version? As long as they say it is 9k gold and the rest bronze, that's fine. 9k gold for this size and weight is still worth a lot more than all bronze.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    9 karat gold means the medal is made up of 15 parts “other” metal. 9 parts gold and 15 parts other. It’s going to be called bronze I’m afraid

    m

    Even if they have a silver and bronze version? As long as they say it is 9k gold and the rest bronze, that's fine. 9k gold for this size and weight is still worth a lot more than all bronze.

    Let us know what they say. I'd be interested. The could label it yellow metal I suppose.

    m

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @jwitten said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    9 karat gold means the medal is made up of 15 parts “other” metal. 9 parts gold and 15 parts other. It’s going to be called bronze I’m afraid

    m

    Even if they have a silver and bronze version? As long as they say it is 9k gold and the rest bronze, that's fine. 9k gold for this size and weight is still worth a lot more than all bronze.

    Let us know what they say. I'd be interested. The could label it yellow metal I suppose.

    m

    At this point, I don't care what they call it, as long as it really is 9k gold. I paid just a bit over melt for it, but that was still a significant amount if it turns out to just be bronze.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018 7:42PM

    Well...you got it holdered...you did not say anything about being attributed the way you wanted.

    Is it hallmarked with the karat rating?

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    Well...you got it holdered...you did not say anything about being attributed the way you wanted.

    Is it hallmarked with the karat rating?

    I just now got notification that it is scheduled for grading. Not graded yet, but it is listed as a bronze medal in the details.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you write any comments on the submission form about it being 9k gold?
    They might have just put it in as bronze on a whim, probably not giving too much thought about this. Of course it is special to you, but it's just another piece to grade over there.
    I would call them again and make sure it is labeled correctly since it is important to you. You might have to pay for their metallurgical analysis, which I think is around 50 bucks.
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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I called them just now, and was pulling it up online to give them the submission number, and it looks like it has been corrected to GOLD now. I have no clue why it was saying bronze last night. Shew!

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Well, I called them just now, and was pulling it up online to give them the submission number, and it looks like it has been corrected to GOLD now. I have no clue why it was saying bronze last night. Shew!

    Yay!

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice medal!

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    I am mainly just wanting to get it into a nice holder for protection. I don't like it in a flip.

    TAP plastics made me a nice custom holder for medals.

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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    Does medals like this have a mark saying that its gold ??

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mkman123 said:
    Does medals like this have a mark saying that its gold ??

    No, it had no marks on it about the purity or anything. I went off the auction I bought it from, and it matched one other auction result I was able to find on another site.

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice work and neat fun. Enjoy B)

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