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Very colorful 1965 Washington Quarter, SMS or Business Strike?

jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

So I picked up this 1965 Washington Quarter with beautiful color. It appears to be a high end gem. But I have a heck of a time telling SMS from BS. What makes me lean towards BS is the die state and large die crack on the eagle's wing tip on the reverse. If I could get the opinions on the Washington Quarter experts, I'd greatly appreciate it. If it turns out to be a BS, would it be worth submitting? It think it would have to go 67 to really be worth it.

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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin.

    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stunning. I really like it.

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018 8:41PM

    Looks like a business strike to me and a beauty! With that kind of color, I think you’ll get good value out of any reasonable straight grade (e.g 65 or better)

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The die erosion makes me say business strike. Nice clad!

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys. I don't typically buy clad, but this one just really stood out in the case. I couldn't resist at the paltry price that was asked. I just couldn't believe the luster that was popping on this, coupled with the color... = Instant buy. :)

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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a business strike to me.

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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pure BS!

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, business strike.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome!! You guys are confirming my hunch.

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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the most attractive clads I've seen. Nice addition.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Considering the die cracks, I would vote for business strike

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Business strike, but nice detail .... might be worth submitting....If it straight grades at 65/66, the tarnish premium will give you ROI. Cheers, RickO

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Business strike, but nice detail .... might be worth submitting....If it straight grades at 65/66, the tarnish premium will give you ROI. Cheers, RickO

    I know how much you dislike the tarnish and I appreciate your comment. :)

    This one certainly won't get the "Ricko BW Bean"... LOL

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Business Strike to my eye

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 31, 2018 3:47AM

    Neither. It's a "circulation strike."

    (ALL coins are struck as part of the US Mint's business. This one appears to have been made for circulation; not part of a Special Mint Set.)

    ;)

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    I would only submit if it had a good shot at 67. You will do a ok with 66 but a 67 would really make it a true home run

    I have a very good feeling that it would go 67. The luster in hand is intense and the surfaces are so clean, it's one of the reasons my first reaction was it had to be an SMS. The die cracks swayed me away from the SMS strike and made me lean towards the circulation strike.

    @RogerB said:
    Neither. It's a "circulation strike."

    (ALL coins are struck as part of the US Mint's business. This one appears to have been made for circulation; not part of a Special Mint Set.)

    ;)

    Yes, as usual, you are absolutely correct. :)

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it presently in a holder?

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    Is it presently in a holder?

    No, presently it is a raw coin.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AllCoinsRule said:
    I think my ms67 was more colorful in hand but maybe I'm miss remembering. The ms68 1967 on coinfacts also looks to have toning similar to your 1965.

    You're right, the coloring is very similar. I wonder if it's because of the metal composition?

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    bigmountainlionbigmountainlion Posts: 275 ✭✭✭

    Very nice :)

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 31, 2018 5:12PM

    Ive had ones like these get the ol BB, presumably due to the toning.

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    toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d have a hard time leaving that one behind. Love the look.

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Ive had ones like these get the ol BB, presumably due to the toning.

    Yeah, especially right now with how tough both services are on color. But I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    @toyz4geo said:
    I’d have a hard time leaving that one behind. Love the look.

    I just don't think anyone could leave it behind for the $5.00 I paid. ;)

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one, I'm in the BS camp as well, just has that look

    Steve

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Ive had ones like these get the ol BB, presumably due to the toning.

    That color to me looks MA. Having said that I have never collected clad (one every few years) so I really have no experience in toned clad.

    What does MA mean? Just curious.

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin. I'd send it in.

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:

    @jtlee321 said:

    @MANOFCOINS said:

    @erwindoc said:
    Ive had ones like these get the ol BB, presumably due to the toning.

    That color to me looks MA. Having said that I have never collected clad (one every few years) so I really have no experience in toned clad.

    What does MA mean? Just curious.

    market acceptable (toning looks natural to great majority)

    Thank you for the clarification. :)

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