@HCumberdale said:
It is ok to be interested in the disordered mind. It is perfectly normal to be repulsed by the behavior these individuals may commit. Intelligent discussion of how to handle these individuals in a way that is best for society is wonderful (in a different forum). It is another thing entirely to harbor malice and wish ill will on these individuals. Comments that glorify the abuse you think will/should take place as vengeance or retribution are nothing short of disgusting.
Frankly, I think many posters in this thread should be ashamed. It's not amusing or funny in the slightest.
Unlike another poster, I'm not of the opinion that all wrongdoings are equal, but chances are, someone you know and love has had thoughts of committing an act that the rest of society finds deplorable. While there is a big difference between thought and behavior, these disordered acts are closer to you than you may realize. You wouldn't want to see your loved one abused in prison or hear people talking about it with merriment; so stop reveling in what you think is going to happen to Shane.
We should stand strongly against such behavior while having as much compassion as we can for the human being that Shane is.
Well said!!!
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
No one knows if they are going to be convicted or not. That's why there are trials, plea bargains, reduced or dismissed charges after discovery. Not to mention that CO Tennessee Dave is absolutely correct, time in a state prison beats the large inner city jails. Large inner city jails hold the worst of the worst awaiting trial. In a state prison, you can get 4 different levels of prisons in places, and not be housed with murderers, like you can be in a city/county jail.
You two really have no idea what you're talking about.
Actually, I do.
Work in a maximum security hell hole, , another time next door neighbor was a warden, and have a lot of police friends, city and county.
To RATIONAL people, the thought of getting out via bonding, hung jury, etc. is real and what WE think would happen. For many, after being in prison 3, 4, 8 times, there is no illusion, they know how it plays out, etc. When you see them working out 24 x 7, bulking up, you know they are getting ready for state prison and are trying to "move up" in the food chain.
In city or county, family can visit, easier than 1/2 way across the state, lawyer often has a office in the same building as the jail, etc.
However, I will choose to pass on both of them.
And the local/county jails may be more crowded and worse living conditions, but the state pen is where any jailhouse justice for his crimes will occur. It is less likely anyone in the local jails will know what he's in for until after convicted. Easier to blend in unnoticed. He's going to have it rough anywhere though as a 5'7 little plump ball looking like he does.
Looks like Shane is going to have to learn those lessons the hard way too. Maybe he can draw strength from your survivorship
It's a little easier from the right side of the balls.
@bronco2078 said:
Still not hearing enough complaints about the fake toners he peddled , in fact the silence on that is deafening.
Most of the toners he sold were certified and on consignment (including mine). Please post an example of one of the "fake toners" he peddeled - I don't recall any.
He had a lot of AT raw stuff for sale after the first strong rumors about his money problems started to circulate.
Just some clarification. Shane's original plea deal was four years for the original ten counts. He turned that plea deal down as he continued to state he was not guilty. The DA then re checked his computer and found more videos and pictures hence the additional charges added later. Shane then did what's called a Wilford plea basically stating he had bad represintation. The judge denied the plea and it came down to take the 15 years or go to trail and spend the rest of your life in prison. He lost custody of his youngest daughter, lost his house and everything he owns.
Why did he lose everything he owns (including his house)? Not that he wasn't a vile piece of work, but is emptying bank accounts part of the sentencing? Might make a spouse ask for a quickie divorce to preserve his/her own interests before a trial.
I was talking to a dealer yesterday who gave me the lowdown on Brett Bogus who looks to be a lifer too. I'm curious to what happened to "Jimmy" of "Sunshine Rarities" when he got out.
@Stork said:
Why did he lose everything he owns (including his house)? Not that he wasn't a vile piece of work, but is emptying bank accounts part of the sentencing? Might make a spouse ask for a quickie divorce to preserve his/her own interests before a trial.
I'm guessing legal fees wiped him out---lawyers ain't cheap.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Good point. My husband also pointed out there might have been some rather large fines to be paid to victims' releif funds. Not that I have a problem with a criminal paying (and why not pay for upkeep???), I just wonder what would happen in the case of an innocent spouse--or worse if it was their own spouse/child that was victimized. Pretty bad if a victim was even more victimized by the loss of a home/college fund/whatever because of the criminal's punishment.
edited to add: this conversation has flown so far off the coin-topic it's time to stop IMO. Yes, it's good to know a criminal who ripped off forum members is behind bars--even for unrelated charges...but yikes. I have contributed to the OT nature of this, and apologize. Enough though.
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Well said!!!
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Yep.
That's witty stuff man. How old are you again?
He had a lot of AT raw stuff for sale after the first strong rumors about his money problems started to circulate.
Just some clarification. Shane's original plea deal was four years for the original ten counts. He turned that plea deal down as he continued to state he was not guilty. The DA then re checked his computer and found more videos and pictures hence the additional charges added later. Shane then did what's called a Wilford plea basically stating he had bad represintation. The judge denied the plea and it came down to take the 15 years or go to trail and spend the rest of your life in prison. He lost custody of his youngest daughter, lost his house and everything he owns.
Why did he lose everything he owns (including his house)? Not that he wasn't a vile piece of work, but is emptying bank accounts part of the sentencing? Might make a spouse ask for a quickie divorce to preserve his/her own interests before a trial.
I this is not a good thread to keep hammering on this person. lets move on....
I was talking to a dealer yesterday who gave me the lowdown on Brett Bogus who looks to be a lifer too. I'm curious to what happened to "Jimmy" of "Sunshine Rarities" when he got out.
Everything you always wanted to know about coin people, but were afraid to ask.
I'm guessing legal fees wiped him out---lawyers ain't cheap.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Good point. My husband also pointed out there might have been some rather large fines to be paid to victims' releif funds. Not that I have a problem with a criminal paying (and why not pay for upkeep???), I just wonder what would happen in the case of an innocent spouse--or worse if it was their own spouse/child that was victimized. Pretty bad if a victim was even more victimized by the loss of a home/college fund/whatever because of the criminal's punishment.
edited to add: this conversation has flown so far off the coin-topic it's time to stop IMO. Yes, it's good to know a criminal who ripped off forum members is behind bars--even for unrelated charges...but yikes. I have contributed to the OT nature of this, and apologize. Enough though.