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Is this a natural toned 1935 Conn Commemorative Half Dollar?

ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

I see the same kind of reddish toned commemoratives in PCGS slab as well.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    rev

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    currently on eBay bidding $54 with days to go

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That toning does not look natural to me. The unattractive dark spots and the white spots say to me that this coin has been treated with a chemical. The color also is not natural.

    I don't collect very many "toners," but I was a dealer and I have been a collector for over 55 years. Here is Columbian half dillar that is naturally toned.


    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is: No. The color and toning pattern both look odd.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think not.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes, what they said.

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    tincuptincup Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does not look natural to me. Even if it was... not a desirable toning, at least not to my taste.

    ----- kj
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would expect that neither the image nor the coin were unaltered.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    also, there appears to be a reverse scratch

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Alarm bells and 'red' flags on that one..... looks previously treated with some type of chemical(s). Cheers, RickO

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really don't think that you are doing yourself any favors by looking at raw coins. Certification does provide you with a level of protection from an over graded or problem coin, although it's not 100% foolproof.

    There is also something to be said for the observation that raw coins are more often than not raw for a reason, and that reason often does not work in your favor.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This particular issue simply is never found with stunning colors...the best you can hope for is nice edge toning from an album, but most undipped examples have brown speckled toning from the box of issue.

    As others have noted, your coin will slab as artificially toned.

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not like this Bridgeport at all

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 3:21PM

    @BillJones said:

    You are right; I will save my time on raws and only collect slabbed coins going forward. I am just too novice to understand the whole spectrum of this part of collecting and eventually then I would understand better from forum members discussions.
    Thank you for your guidance <3

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nasty scratch on the eagle's wing, goofy colors and an overly-manipulated photo. Based on today's sliver price I'd pay $5.95 for it.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't touch that coin. Nasty example.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here one I used to own in my set. PCGS MS66:

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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aren't too many Bridgeport Commem threads - gotta strike while the iron is hot. This is a PCGS 64. I like @CommemDude 's comment. The album that gave this some color left some slide marks on the eagle which you can see. CAC didn't mind though.


    My current "Box of 20"

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    most suggested for me to stay away from raw for many reasons; so here is my 1st half dollar commemorative which is safe & assuring

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CommemKing said:
    Here one I used to own in my set. PCGS MS66:

    Being new in this hobby I am still drawn to either white blast & lustrous coins; but OH yours so beautiful!

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2018 5:21PM

    @Paradisefound said:

    @CommemKing said:
    Here one I used to own in my set. PCGS MS66:

    Being new in this hobby I am still drawn to either white blast & lustrous coins

    >

    Your preference will save you a ton of money

    You will be able to buy white blast white coins at multiples cheaper then toned commems. Make sure you are not overpaying as they are plentiful. You could put together as set of white commems in one day at a large show. Same on the internet. Be extremely picky

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO....It does not look like natural toning to me.

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know whether to laugh, cry, sh!t or go blind :p :'( o:)B)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:
    I don't know whether to laugh, cry, sh!t or go blind :p :'( o:)B)

    or "walk through the fire?"

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have been looking at dreck professionally for 40 years and still maintain some enthusiasm ;)<3
    Not for this :s
    I have a finely tuned sensitivity to the subtleties surrounding the classifications from pig to POS.
    The taxonomy of trash, if you will.

    My gut says poorly stored and naturally toned.
    Closer to ED than AT.
    Crap, not dreck.

    Unsaleable in a 66 slab..
    Acid dip will turn the coin to shiny with blotchy grey rot.
    Find a dumbass who'll pay you XF bid of $85; MS65 bid is $150.

    Now to find my eyewash and recite the "Unsee It Prayer" >:)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell

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