most valuable coin collection of the world

privaterarecoincollector · January 10, 2018 11:07AM

I was always thinking Simpson might have the most valuable coin collection of the world, with Del Hansen being closely behind him. Now this came up, never heard of it before:

http://thetyrantcollection.com/

https://coinweek.com/education/coin-exhibits/inaugural-exhibit-of-tyrant-collection-treasures-includes-first-usa-display-of-rare-1937-edward-viii-proof-set/

Curious to see what else there is in there, especially also US coins. It is possible that actually this collection is the most valuable one, if it really contains all the rarities of ancient, world and US. The British part for sure looks great.

RogerB · January 10, 2018 11:28AM

The most valuable coin collection in the world is the one which brings its owner fresh pleasure and knowledge each day.

BryceM · January 10, 2018 11:31AM

Gee Roger, you're a poet!

ricko · January 10, 2018 11:54AM

@RogerB ....You just described my collection....Wow.... Feels good... Cheers, RickO

Boosibri · January 10, 2018 12:02PM

Epic collection

Boosibri · January 10, 2018 12:03PM

Epic collection

specialist · January 10, 2018 12:10PM

This is not a new collector. He has been around and is a known major buyer today. He does his biz very quietly. His holdings include the King of Siam set and the BEST $10 set 1795-1933 that exists.

This collection is probably worth $100 million but not much more.

The order is still Simpson, Hanson, and maybe this guy.

ranshdow · January 10, 2018 12:17PM

@Boosibri said:
Epic collection

You can say that again!

ScarsdaleCoin · January 10, 2018 12:54PM

Depends on your definition of collection and private / public because their our also a few other collections that are worth more

BryceM · January 10, 2018 12:58PM

There’s a possibility that the valuable collection in the world doesn’t contain a single US coin.

mvs7 · January 10, 2018 1:38PM

I was planning on day-tripping down to LA for one of the Long Beach days this February... will have to make sure I have time to check this out. Thanks for posting @privaterarecoincollector!

Treashunt · January 10, 2018 1:55PM

mine is the most valuable coin collection of the world

Simply because:
1) It is mine;
2) I don't owe anything on it.

3) It is mine

jmlanzaf · January 10, 2018 3:08PM

@BryceM said:
There’s a possibility that the valuable collection in the world doesn’t contain a single US coin.

Unlikely given the overpriced US market

dpoole · January 10, 2018 3:28PM

From the descriptions, it's hard to imagine a more valuable collection than what the Smithsonian holds.

Insider2 · January 10, 2018 3:38PM

@specialist said:
This is not a new collector. He has been around and is a known major buyer today. He does his biz very quietly. His holdings include the King of Siam set and the BEST $10 set 1795-1933 that exists.

This collection is probably worth $100 million but not much more.

The order is still Simpson, Hanson, and maybe this guy.

Still curious, why are you behind the bars? Were you bad? I wish you would post more often. Now, since the OP did not add "in private hands," I would think as another posted that a major world museum would have the most valuable collection. Disagree? Think of all the rarities you could "place" with the three collectors you mention.

TwoSides2aCoin · January 10, 2018 3:40PM

I don't think my statehood quarter collection compares.

PTVETTER · January 10, 2018 4:03PM

The most valuable coin in the world would be:
The one you grandfather gave me when I was very young
A gold coin which is PRICELESS
Money value is so overrated
Memories priceless!

He passed away when I was across the big pond

Gazes · January 10, 2018 6:21PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@BryceM said:
There’s a possibility that the valuable collection in the world doesn’t contain a single US coin.

Unlikely given the overpriced US market

What makes you believe the US market is overpriced ?

You · January 10, 2018 7:14PM

@Gazes said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@BryceM said:
There’s a possibility that the valuable collection in the world doesn’t contain a single US coin.

Unlikely given the overpriced US market

What makes you believe the US market is overpriced ?

The US market is insanely overpriced. There's no reason why a $13 piece of silver with 5000+ examples available in mint state should cost $5000 in MS61. http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/7086
The same goes for nearly every other US coin. There are very VERY few US coins that I would call reasonably priced. Here's one: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/4350

If you get into foreign coins you'll see that their prices are beyond cheap by comparison.

BryceM · January 10, 2018 7:30PM

In an open market with frequent buying opportunities, price = demand / supply. Nobody is fixing the price of 79-CC Morgans. Multiple auctions this year demonstrate that people are willing to pay the money to get this coin.

Yes, many foreign coins are quite inexpensive in comparison, but most of those countries don't have much of a collector base either.

REALGATOR · January 10, 2018 7:36PM

@You said:

The US market is insanely overpriced. There's no reason why a $13 piece of silver with 5000+ examples available in mint state should cost $5000 in MS61. http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/7086
The same goes for nearly every other US coin. There are very VERY few US coins that I would call reasonably priced. Here's one: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/4350

If you get into foreign coins you'll see that their prices are beyond cheap by comparison.

Don't forget the demand side. People just like (and buy with gusto) big US coins and gold. Probably hundreds of Morgan Dollar collectors for every half dime collector. Collect what you love, but the tape doesn't lie.

Gluggo · January 10, 2018 7:59PM

@RogerB said:
The most valuable coin collection in the world is the one which brings its owner fresh pleasure and knowledge each day.

Awwww my doggie liked that when I told her that! She wagged her tail!

privaterarecoincollector · January 10, 2018 10:46PM

@specialist said:
This is not a new collector. He has been around and is a known major buyer today. He does his biz very quietly. His holdings include the King of Siam set and the BEST $10 set 1795-1933 that exists.

This collection is probably worth $100 million but not much more.

The order is still Simpson, Hanson, and maybe this guy.

it really depends on what he has in world and ancient. His UK coins are 15 Mio, ancient coins could be much more depending on what he has, a golden Eid Mar is a good start, so he might have 100 Mio USD and could have another 200 Mio ancient and world, its possible.

privaterarecoincollector · January 10, 2018 10:48PM

@mvs7 said:
I was planning on day-tripping down to LA for one of the Long Beach days this February... will have to make sure I have time to check this out. Thanks for posting @privaterarecoincollector!

let us know what you see !

jmlanzaf · January 11, 2018 2:52AM

@BryceM said:
In an open market with frequent buying opportunities, price = demand / supply. Nobody is fixing the price of 79-CC Morgans. Multiple auctions this year demonstrate that people are willing to pay the money to get this coin.

Yes, many foreign coins are quite inexpensive in comparison, but most of those countries don't have much of a collector base either.

True. But my point remains. You would need a much larger, much more extant collection of non-U.S. material to equal the perceived value of a high end U.S. collection.

And don't forget that demand is not organic. Hype creates demand. Look at 1856 flying eagle cents. That coin is probably the MOST COMMON PATTERN coin in the U.S. cabinet, yet sells for many multiples of much, much rarer pattern coins. Max Mehl did the same with the 1913 Liberty nickel which otherwise might have been eschewed as Mint shenanigans.

Who told collectors they NEED a 16-D dime or an S-VDB cent? Those coins are beyond common. I've always wondered what percentage of those coins actually reside in collections and what percentage simply exist in dealer stock.

Look at what registry sets have done to the prices of pretty common modern material due to perceived condition rarities. I defy most (all?) collectors to be able to be able to see the difference between a 69 and a 70. [Is there really one?] The value difference is largely market perception due to hype not any real quality difference or even rarity difference.

The value is the value. But the U.S. market is overpriced relative to most other segments of the coin market.

Nap · January 11, 2018 5:58AM

@privaterarecoincollector said:

it really depends on what he has in world and ancient. His UK coins are 15 Mio, ancient coins could be much more depending on what he has, a golden Eid Mar is a good start, so he might have 100 Mio USD and could have another 200 Mio ancient and world, its possible.

As far as I know, there are only 2 known gold Eid Mar coins. One is in the British Museum, the other is privately owned but sadly is holed. It's bounced around on the auction scene a few times in the last decade or two, I don't know if this collector owns it, but because of the damage it is probably not among the most valuable coins in the collection.

The coin on the front page of "The Tyrant Collection" of Brutus is another fantastic issue of the famous assassin but is not of the "Eid Mar" (i.e. Ides of March) type.

That's it for now on ancient coins. We now bring you back to your regularly scheduled US coin programming.

It does look like there are some amazing coins in the collection, but I guess we'll have to wait for the "full reveal"

privaterarecoincollector · January 11, 2018 7:15AM

@Nap said:

@privaterarecoincollector said:

it really depends on what he has in world and ancient. His UK coins are 15 Mio, ancient coins could be much more depending on what he has, a golden Eid Mar is a good start, so he might have 100 Mio USD and could have another 200 Mio ancient and world, its possible.

As far as I know, there are only 2 known gold Eid Mar coins. One is in the British Museum, the other is privately owned but sadly is holed. It's bounced around on the auction scene a few times in the last decade or two, I don't know if this collector owns it, but because of the damage it is probably not among the most valuable coins in the collection.

The coin on the front page of "The Tyrant Collection" of Brutus is another fantastic issue of the famous assassin but is not of the "Eid Mar" (i.e. Ides of March) type.

That's it for now on ancient coins. We now bring you back to your regularly scheduled US coin programming.

It does look like there are some amazing coins in the collection, but I guess we'll have to wait for the "full reveal"

thanks, Im waiting for BASS !!!

Photoguy · February 27, 2018 12:20PM

From someone who knows... you might be onto something with those numbers if you figure in his ancient and world at those numbers (maybe even much higher ) .

@privaterarecoincollector said:

@specialist said:
This is not a new collector. He has been around and is a known major buyer today. He does his biz very quietly. His holdings include the King of Siam set and the BEST $10 set 1795-1933 that exists.

This collection is probably worth $100 million but not much more.

The order is still Simpson, Hanson, and maybe this guy.

it really depends on what he has in world and ancient. His UK coins are 15 Mio, ancient coins could be much more depending on what he has, a golden Eid Mar is a good start, so he might have 100 Mio USD and could have another 200 Mio ancient and world, its possible.

Gazes · February 27, 2018 2:20PM

@specialist said:
This is not a new collector. He has been around and is a known major buyer today. He does his biz very quietly. His holdings include the King of Siam set and the BEST $10 set 1795-1933 that exists.

This collection is probably worth $100 million but not much more.

The order is still Simpson, Hanson, and maybe this guy.

Specialist---do you still feel this way now that he has begun to display his collection?

oldgoldlover · February 27, 2018 6:10PM

@privaterarecoincollector said:
I was always thinking Simpson might have the most valuable coin collection of the world, with Del Hansen being closely behind him. Now this came up, never heard of it before:

http://thetyrantcollection.com/

https://coinweek.com/education/coin-exhibits/inaugural-exhibit-of-tyrant-collection-treasures-includes-first-usa-display-of-rare-1937-edward-viii-proof-set/

Curious to see what else there is in there, especially also US coins. It is possible that actually this collection is the most valuable one, if it really contains all the rarities of ancient, world and US. The British part for sure looks great.

I doubt it would bring what the first and only $20 double eagle minted, that being the $1849 DE in the Smithsonian. Collectors from all over the world would be bidding on this coin as it is truly one of a kind.

CyndieChildress · February 28, 2018 5:35AM

@PTVETTER said:
The most valuable coin in the world would be:
The one you grandfather gave me when I was very young
A gold coin which is PRICELESS
Money value is so overrated
Memories priceless!

He passed away when I was across the big pond

AGREED.!.!

Regulated · February 28, 2018 11:57AM

While I'm not certain about cash value, the collector of these coins can bury Simpson and most others in terms of real knowledge about what he collects. I worked with him on his $10s, and he REALLY did his homework on every coin in that set.

The depth and breadth of this group impresses me far more than any of the private collections mentioned here.

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