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1926S Mercury Dime. Just back from PCGS. What do you see.
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What do you see or think about this dime? Please comment. Click on the pictures to make them bigger.
Ken
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What do you see or think about this dime? Please comment. Click on the pictures to make them bigger.
Ken
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PVC?
Struck thru on obverse?
Doubled date ?
So far none of the above pertain to the coin.
Ken
Re-engraved center bands?
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
obverse - cheek and in front of eye/nose/mouth the flow lines are wrong -> whizzed
Lets get a few more answers/ideas and then I will come back and tell what is going on with this dime.
Ken
Another vote for Re-engraved and wizzed
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Sure looks double date to me, although you mentioned that's not it.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
Lite corrosion running from the "I" in DIME to the fasces.
Full bands yet major weakness in the hair. Re-engraved bands?
Tooled/Altered Surfaces.
top and bottom bands looked tooled, but the ones in the middle that count could be legit.
How about re-engraved obverse around the feathers in the cap? Rest of the strike is too soft.
Holy crap I see it - it's a Mercury Dime!
Actually, I see something that has been struck-over - almost like it was never ejected, but rotated or flipped. Almost certainly not that though, it would have far more remnants. The lines run from the cheek, out the chin, and around the motto, then horizontal through the neck. Reverse looks fairly normal besides the crisp torch lines.
It doesn't feel like a strike-through to me. Perhaps struck over some other denomination? Something Philipino?
I’ll have what he is drinking
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Me too!
Basically what happened on this one it was struck with a generous dab of lard that had inadvertently fallen on the die during pressing. They were able to separate out the worst examples but this one snuck through! You can see this if you rotate the coin in halogen light, the radial lines as well as silver striations were disrupted.
Hub doubled obverse. It's most apparent on the central obverse and designer's initials, and GOD.
Pete
The close up of the obverse shows whorls in the fields, consistent with whizzing as some have noted. The close up of the bands show razor thin divides that are not perfectly straight, consistent with re-engraving as some have noted. Any other issues?
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I see 62FB unless it got bagged for PVC
Actually, it would not be in a holder if it had PVC - so my guess is it graded low MS
Ok Ken, out with it. Past my bedtime.
I agree with the bands being too sharp for the grade.
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Added S?
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i'm in the whizzed camp (from the images)
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Would not be in a holder with an added S (unless PCGS missed it). Forgot that is a key date! Maybe got a 58 due to some rub.
She's sportin a beard so some form of strike thru?
I have a question on this note! With no disrespect to our host. If they grade as fast as I have heard......literly seconds. I think it would be very easy to miss such things as this. Just saying.
All the bands have been recut and the coin has been buffed to hide the alteration. The lighting makes it look whizzed.
No disrespect to anyone posting: This coin would look "altered surface" the second the grader started to remove it from the flip! Next, the reengraved bands would pop out as this is a perfect example of a very amateurish and crappy alteration.
I can assure you with 100% certainty that there is not a professional grader at any major TPGS (and I'll include SEGS in this comment) that would miss this alteration.
This is possible but the whizzing could cause what you see. With just an image, it is best to compare the head details with a genuine coin to rule out or confirm what you see.
PS The important lesson from this coin is to look how strong and deep the bands are (they really screwed up the ones at the top) and the nick into the right field next to the band line where the tool went too far!
@Insider2 said:
The important lesson from this coin is to look how strong and deep the bands are (they really screwed up the ones at the top) and the nick into the right field next to the band line where the tool went too far!
Oh...ok..Now I see the tooling. Man your good, real good.....thanks for the lesson.
Jim
But the recut bands are so obvious that one must wonder what else the TPG might have missed, if this piece was indeed slabbed by a TPG
good point. this could just be in the inner rubber ring out of a holder.
i see the obvious band alteration(s) now that others mentioned it.
can't imagine having to be on my A game all day looking for things like this. i could see it getting easier the more i look at but simultaneously i can see becoming a bit desensitized to the minor alterations as well.
good thread.
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Just wanted to get this coin into a genuine slab. I knew it had been smoothed/whizzed and had recut/tooled bands. Someone sure goofed up a nice key date Mercury Dime.
Ken
Wow...such a shame....and not a real good job either. Cheers, RickO
Too bad - would have been an eye appealing AU58!
Thanks for posting!
This is why I suggested checking the Mint mark. Cheaper to mess up a 26-P. Check the edge near the Mint mark for evidence of a filled in embossing hole.
Curious, has anyone seen an embossed mint mark on a dime? Buffalo nickels and Morgan dollars is all I've seen. Any Peace dollars?
I have not, but I never say never!
Looks like the two hits inside the axe loop to the left of the top bands are also from the recutting tool. Great catch on the extraneous marks.
BINGO
Hoard the keys.
Reverse horizontal bands altered. Obverse altered - not esp. at nose and chin. Other problems.
Not gradable and has been rendered nearly worthless. Sad.
Label and thread mystery aside...
This is what I was describing earlier. These lines stood out to me the instant I first looked at the picture. WHAT ARE THESE LINES?