Bought a Pillar Dollar today at my LCS...

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ChrisH821
ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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and I like it a lot! NGC 61
Very cool that these and other Mexican/Spanish coins circulated in the colonies and were legal tender until 1857.


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  • 1940coupe
    1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
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    Nice

  • CWT1863
    CWT1863 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice!

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  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've also been looking for a nice one for my collection. Nice piece!

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  • mvs7
    mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin!

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That set is very cool!

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  • bronzemat
    bronzemat Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice!

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome pick up

  • ModCrewman
    ModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is it a DDO, or are they all doubled like that?

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ModCrewman said:
    Is it a DDO, or are they all doubled like that?

    I read somewhere that each element of the dies were punched individually. That being the case I would think it was very common to have doubling on several of the design elements. This also would explain why there are non-doubled letters next to the doubled ones.

    Also of note on this coin is die clashing. See the shadow of the O under MF and the 7 next to the X. There is also some sort of artifact in the field next to the left pillar, I think from the points in the flower.

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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Amazing that these exist in MS. They were made to be used.

  • tommy44
    tommy44 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like it a lot also.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Now that you have Mexico City out of the way, you just need Lima, Potosi, Guatemala, Santiago and Nuevo Reino for a mintmark set. They get pretty pricey after Mexico City, Lima and Potosi!

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice i like

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice... I have looked at these at shows before....have not yet purchased one.....even looked at them on ebay....soon maybe. Cheers, RickO

  • tyler267
    tyler267 Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭
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    I like it

    I should start buying some of these, great looking coins with a lot of history

  • WoodenJefferson
    WoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
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    1791?

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  • Stuart
    Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2018 11:42AM
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    Congrats on picking up a beautifully struck and well-preserved Classic Coin Design!

    I always have to look twice (or more) at the dates on them to figure out what year they were minted!! :wink:


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  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @WoodenJefferson said:
    1791?

    1751, yeah the 5 is weird.

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome!

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  • northcoin
    northcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2018 1:45PM
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    @Boosibri said:
    Everyone should own a Pillar Dollar!

    @messydesk said:

    @Boosibri said:
    Everyone should own a Pillar Dollar!

    And a Fugio, a Buffalo nickel, a CC Morgan dollar, and a $20 Saint.

    ... at least for those of us caught up in the conundrum "there isn't a type of coin I couldn't love" dilemma. Check, check, check, check, and check here, though not necessarily acquired in that order.

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ricko said:
    Very nice... I have looked at these at shows before....have not yet purchased one.....even looked at them on ebay....soon maybe. Cheers, RickO

    That's where I was too, then this one popped up at the shop I frequent. I actually didn't buy it the first time I saw it but kept thinking I should have, luckily it was still in the shop when I went back about a week later.

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  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I got mine at a LCS and they were GLAD to "get rid" of it. PCGS VF 30 1738
    Crazy! Those are NEAT coins.

    Too bad they aren't more widely known outside our little world.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If I had a coin shop around, I would look... guess I better check the local antique shops... they often have some coins... usually just Morgan and Peace though... Cheers, RickO

  • TwoKopeiki
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    @ModCrewman said:
    Is it a DDO, or are they all doubled like that?

    Like @ChrisH821 mentioned, each die element was punched in individually. It was common to re-cut individual die elements if the alignment / positioning was off. This was done by filling the die element with metal and re-punching over it. Since the filler metal was softer that the die steel, after prolonged use it would compress and the outline of the previous element would show up.

    Here's an example of a heavily reworked die. Must have been an apprentice die sinker


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  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    WOW!! What a beautiful piece

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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice.... now looking for one of these.... Cheers, RickO

  • 1940coupe
    1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
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    well I said I was thinking of buying I bought this one 216 of 1000

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