I was able to acquire a PF70 at reasonable price; 20% over spot. I stopped on the bidding last year when the price went way North of $3000. Looking back I was glad I did not win then...
This is a beautiful non USMint .999 coin. Just love the design.
@Paradisefound said:
I was able to acquire a PF70 at reasonable price; 20% over spot. I stopped on the bidding last year when the price went way North of $3000. Looking back I was glad I did not win then...
This is a beautiful non USMint .999 coin. Just love the design.
Your gold piece is over the top beautiful. I think it’s a home run Just look at the detail on those wings.
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
@dcarr said:
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
WOW I love yours a lot and the wings are so beautifully done.
@dcarr said:
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
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I’m in I like yours much more, Dan. Especially the face. Great work !!
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Great work, Dan! Superior scaling to keep Ms. Liberty large.
Love the shield and the hair blowing in front of the wing.
[Edit:] Could even go to 1906 for the date, since the plaster model uses that....
@dcarr said:
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
This is beautiful Dan! I've been waiting for you to create one and you don't disappoint!
For the date, it would be great to use 1906 mentioned by @yosclimber. This way you can use Roman numerals like on the 1907. Another thing to consider would be to put the Roman numeral date on top like in the original Saint-Gaudens plaster sketch in the center below:
@dcarr said:
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
This is beautiful Dan! I've been waiting for you to create one and you don't disappoint!
For the date, it would be great to use 1906 mentioned by @yosclimber. This way you can use Roman numerals like on the 1907. Another thing to consider would be to put the Roman numeral date on top like in the original Saint-Gaudens plaster sketch in the center below:
I decided to leave "LIBERTY" at the top (exactly where it appears on normal Saint-Gaudens Double Eagles). I also kept most other design elements in a location as close as possible to the normal position, although I did move the date over to the left side because there was more space over there and it seemed to fit better. The reason for all this is that I plan to over-strike existing low-relief Saint-Gaudens coins. The closer the over-strike matches the under-strike, the better it will work.
there is always the aftermarket which is how those Humbert re-issues were sold(I think that's the one). I think when they first sold the price was close to $5k. the odd thing to my reckoning is that these aren't marketed to "collectors" in the mainstream, more to the home-shopper type of buyer. in that regard they don't help us. this much I know: when someone who paid the $3k for these tries to sell, lets say in five years, they will be disappointed.
Am I the only one that wishes the wings on the obverse were symmetrical? I think either side would look good as long as the other matches. And I mainly thought the eagle on the reverse looked cartoonish on the original one posted. Bad feather details or something. I like how Dan has incorporated with the real St Gauden reverse. I just might be a buyer....
@keets said:
there is always the aftermarket which is how those Humbert re-issues were sold(I think that's the one). I think when they first sold the price was close to $5k. the odd thing to my reckoning is that these aren't marketed to "collectors" in the mainstream, more to the home-shopper type of buyer. in that regard they don't help us. this much I know: when someone who paid the $3k for these tries to sell, lets say in five years, they will be disappointed.
Paying $3k for these isn't bad because melt value is just over $3k right now as they have 2.5 oz of gold in them.
What's funny is that while a few of the gold ones have sold for around melt recently on HA, just over $3,000, the copper and pewter die trials have been selling for hefty premiums. Here's a thread with a pewter and copper die trial that both sold in the $1,000.00 range a few months ago.
@dcarr said:
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
This is beautiful Dan! I've been waiting for you to create one and you don't disappoint!
For the date, it would be great to use 1906 mentioned by @yosclimber. This way you can use Roman numerals like on the 1907. Another thing to consider would be to put the Roman numeral date on top like in the original Saint-Gaudens plaster sketch in the center below:
I decided to leave "LIBERTY" at the top (exactly where it appears on normal Saint-Gaudens Double Eagles). I also kept most other design elements in a location as close as possible to the normal position, although I did move the date over to the left side because there was more space over there and it seemed to fit better. The reason for all this is that I plan to over-strike existing low-relief Saint-Gaudens coins. The closer the over-strike matches the under-strike, the better it will work.
From the interest in your Open House medals, it seems many of us (myself included of course) don't mind the undertype showing through. Since you are doing one already, it might be interesting to consider a second version with the Roman numeral date on top. I know I'd be interested in both!
@keets said: just over $3k right now as they have 2.5 oz of gold in them
more confusion, I guess. the one pictured at the top of this page has an insert that states 1oz.
Ah, I was referring to the Humbert (Ron Landis?) pieces you mentioned early in your post and didn't noticed that you had switched to talking about the Saint Gaudens-Mercanti pieces in the OP when you mentioned $3k.
Buying anything above melt has some risk to it. Part of it depends on what you like and the risk you're willing to take. The most risky is probably US Mint modern commemorative gold coins. Many of those are virtually guaranteed to go down.
Of course a big part of collecting is buying what you like, and it seems quite a few people like both the Saint Gaudens interpretations by Dan Carr and John Mercanti. I can't wait to get Dan's version. I'm still sorry I missed out on his first gold owl slug!
most risky is probably US Mint modern commemorative gold coins.
that's hard to argue with. maybe the two worst were the Jackie Robinson and the $10 bi-metallic Botanic Garden. as often happens with stuff like that, I made the wrong choice with a Gold Mint issue --- the 1/4 ounce 2008 Proof Buffalo bullion issue. had I known it was a one year only promotion I would have bought at issue. I decided it would be cheaper in the after market or in a subsequent year. bad me, wrong on both counts and I still don't have one. not only is the premium too high for me but they don't show up very often.
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These are absolutely NOT a US Mint product.
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I was able to acquire a PF70 at reasonable price; 20% over spot. I stopped on the bidding last year when the price went way North of $3000. Looking back I was glad I did not win then...
This is a beautiful non USMint .999 coin. Just love the design.
Reasonable to me because I LOVE it
I love it too. WOW
Yea that is nice.
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These sure do NOT look cartoonish to me. Not even a little bit.
These are gorgeous pieces and I find them more than just attractive.
Very nice... especially for a non-mint product. Nice pick up!
Your gold piece is over the top beautiful. I think it’s a home run
Just look at the detail on those wings.
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It's a no-go if you try and spend these at your local Taco Bell.
After using as much of the sculpture as possible from an actual Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle coin, and then incorporating some design elements (wings and shield) from the original plaster sketch, this is what I came up with. The edge is tricky and I'm still working on that (no products to release just yet).
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I’m in
I like yours much more, Dan. Especially the face. Great work !!
Great work, Dan! Superior scaling to keep Ms. Liberty large.
Love the shield and the hair blowing in front of the wing.
[Edit:] Could even go to 1906 for the date, since the plaster model uses that....
This is beautiful Dan! I've been waiting for you to create one and you don't disappoint!
For the date, it would be great to use 1906 mentioned by @yosclimber. This way you can use Roman numerals like on the 1907. Another thing to consider would be to put the Roman numeral date on top like in the original Saint-Gaudens plaster sketch in the center below:
Omigosh, Dan. That's just stunning.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Please let me know when you release your beautiful rendition, Dan.
Yes I’ll be very disappointed if I don’t get one of these. Please do let me know when I can pick one up.
Love the design .But the shield (to big) blocks most of the wing.
I would try replacing it with a banner around her arm
maybe coming from her waist. JAT.:)
I decided to leave "LIBERTY" at the top (exactly where it appears on normal Saint-Gaudens Double Eagles). I also kept most other design elements in a location as close as possible to the normal position, although I did move the date over to the left side because there was more space over there and it seemed to fit better. The reason for all this is that I plan to over-strike existing low-relief Saint-Gaudens coins. The closer the over-strike matches the under-strike, the better it will work.
See my previous post above.
Yes, the shield is fairly large. But I did make it a little smaller than it appears in the original plaster sketch.
a great design by a great sculptor, just priced a little too far past spot for me to plop down the cash for this medal.
Sold out bud. Too late anyways .
there is always the aftermarket which is how those Humbert re-issues were sold(I think that's the one). I think when they first sold the price was close to $5k. the odd thing to my reckoning is that these aren't marketed to "collectors" in the mainstream, more to the home-shopper type of buyer. in that regard they don't help us. this much I know: when someone who paid the $3k for these tries to sell, lets say in five years, they will be disappointed.
I like those designs a LOT more than the carp coming out of the mint recently.
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Am I the only one that wishes the wings on the obverse were symmetrical? I think either side would look good as long as the other matches. And I mainly thought the eagle on the reverse looked cartoonish on the original one posted. Bad feather details or something. I like how Dan has incorporated with the real St Gauden reverse. I just might be a buyer....
Paying $3k for these isn't bad because melt value is just over $3k right now as they have 2.5 oz of gold in them.
What's funny is that while a few of the gold ones have sold for around melt recently on HA, just over $3,000, the copper and pewter die trials have been selling for hefty premiums. Here's a thread with a pewter and copper die trial that both sold in the $1,000.00 range a few months ago.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987177/ron-landis-2008-humbert-ss-central-america-slug-pewter-die-trial-sells-for-1-136-00/
From the interest in your Open House medals, it seems many of us (myself included of course) don't mind the undertype showing through. Since you are doing one already, it might be interesting to consider a second version with the Roman numeral date on top. I know I'd be interested in both!
just over $3k right now as they have 2.5 oz of gold in them
more confusion, I guess. the one pictured at the top of this page has an insert that states 1oz.
It says one ounce on the slab.
I hope these will be released soon Dan. I am totally impressed with your work on this piece. The more I look at it the better it looks.
Ah, I was referring to the Humbert (Ron Landis?) pieces you mentioned early in your post and didn't noticed that you had switched to talking about the Saint Gaudens-Mercanti pieces in the OP when you mentioned $3k.
Buying anything above melt has some risk to it. Part of it depends on what you like and the risk you're willing to take. The most risky is probably US Mint modern commemorative gold coins. Many of those are virtually guaranteed to go down.
Of course a big part of collecting is buying what you like, and it seems quite a few people like both the Saint Gaudens interpretations by Dan Carr and John Mercanti. I can't wait to get Dan's version. I'm still sorry I missed out on his first gold owl slug!
most risky is probably US Mint modern commemorative gold coins.
that's hard to argue with. maybe the two worst were the Jackie Robinson and the $10 bi-metallic Botanic Garden. as often happens with stuff like that, I made the wrong choice with a Gold Mint issue --- the 1/4 ounce 2008 Proof Buffalo bullion issue. had I known it was a one year only promotion I would have bought at issue. I decided it would be cheaper in the after market or in a subsequent year. bad me, wrong on both counts and I still don't have one. not only is the premium too high for me but they don't show up very often.