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A Bickford Dollar ... An Interesting So-called Dollar

BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

Sometime around 1874 Dana Bickford, who was a resident of New York City, returned from a trip to Europe. While there he experienced the expense and hassle of having to exchange his money every time he moved from one country to another.

Upon his return, Bickford submitted a proposal for an international coinage to Dr. Henry Linderman who was Director of the U.S. Mint. Linderman was intrigued by the idea because the mint was currently spending half a million dollars a year on recoinage and waste from handling foreign coins. Linderman had some pattern coins struck, dated 1874, which are listed as Judd numbers 1373 to 1378. Congress failed to act on the proposal which killed the idea. This picture is from "Coin Facts."

In 1897 Dana Bickford addressed the idea of an international coinage a second time. This time he eight varieties of patterns or “dollars” produced. I found the political aspect of these pieces interesting. Although Bickford did have a couple of pieces made of silver and gold, the collectable varieties are made of aluminum with a brass or copper center. It addressed the bimetallism issue, which had been the core of William Jennings Bryan’s 1896 run for the presidency.

I have never seen so many words on such a small piece. It is not easy to read sentences, even from a photo, so I have provided Bickford’s thoughts and proposals here.


Obverse

This combination coin will when adopted be good in all nations
Heal all differences between gold and silver men
And fully settle all financial questions
Approved by all good business men
“Gold and Silver”
Center in copper: “Republican dollar Internat.l”

Reverse

Here is shown the value of our dollar in the coin of different nations of the world
Sterling 4.2
Francs 5.2
Kronen 3.8
Gulden 2.8
Marken 4.16
Guilder 2.50
Rouble 9.65
Yen 1.1
Invented an protected by Dana Bickford

This is not a scarce variety, and high grade examples are available.

Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So it's a bitcoin! :)
    Very cool. I'd love to see the gold/silver version.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2018 10:25AM

    The efforts to harmonize currencies is interesting along with the Stella and Trade Dollar. Were there other efforts? It's interesting that we still don't have this today but we do have currency exchange trading.

    Did any countries make this with their currency in the middle and others, including the dollar, on the sides?

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin. One was up for auction recently.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2018 10:48AM

    Just looked into these a bit more. Here's some interesting info and questions:

    • This is one of the HK exceptions at 28mm. At this diameter, this is smaller than a half-dollar but still closer to a So-Called Half Dollar than a quarter.
    • HK/so-calleddollars.com says there are eight of these but there are only photos of 3. Are photos of the other 5 available?
    • Is there any biographical info on Dana Bickford online? Is this Dana Bickford the father of Edwin Dana Bickford here:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bickford-331

    Dana Bickford (~1833-?)
    Born about 1833 in Vermont
    Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
    [sibling(s) unknown]
    Husband of Lucy L. (Leonard) Bickford — married 29 May 1853 [location unknown]
    DESCENDANTS descendants
    Father of Ella Louisa (Bickford) Perkins and Edwin Dana Bickford
    Died [date unknown] [location unknown]

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bickford-348

    Edwin Dana Bickford (1866 - 1947)
    Born 15 Apr 1866 in Arlington, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts
    ANCESTORS ancestors
    Son of Dana Bickford and Lucy L. (Leonard) Bickford
    Brother of Ella Louisa (Bickford) Perkins
    Husband of Fronie (Chaney) Bickford — married 23 Jul 1889 in Vermont
    DESCENDANTS descendants
    Father of Marion C Bickford and Howard Leonard Bickford
    Died 28 Aug 1947 in Burlington, Chittenden Co, Vermontmap

    Thanks for the thread Bill!

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2021 8:33AM

    Dana Bickford invented an "automatic knitting machine" and he encountered the problems described by BillJones while he was in Europe promoting/selling his invention. I have a small clipped advertisement circa 1880 pertaining to his machines, it seemed like a natural addition to my collection of these interesting SC$'s. the reason why Hibler-Kappen only pictured three medals in their catalogue is because they represent the three design types, the other differences being the different alloy center plug mated with the aluminum outer ring. there are also a few inner/outer ring alloy combinations that were probably prototypes, perhaps unique. I have never seen any of them.

    it can be hard to differentiate between the brass and bronze(not copper) center plug, but the bronze seems more common and tends to be darker. I have quite a few in grades ranging from MS62-MS66, all un-holed. I remember buying my first piece at the MSNS Show around 2002-3. Ernie Latter was set-up there and I was shocked to find a dealer with Exonumia. he sold me an un-holed HK-833 grade MS66 by NGC, I still have it. my experience has been that HK-833 is pretty scarce, HK-834/835 almost common and HK-836/837 much tougher to find unholed and in MS grades. also, they can be tough to find without the aluminum outer ring "bleeding" over the inner plug and vice versa.

    Bill's pictured medal exhibits some of that strike anomaly.

    one interesting medal I found and had graded by NGC was machine grooved around the edge and then fitted with a twisted piece of copper wire that could be attached to a badge. it was for a Park or Monument dedication but the name escapes me now. I can try to post pictures of the ribbon and some medals when I get home this evening.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for adding additional information about this piece, Keets. B)

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2018 1:42PM

    @keets said:
    Dana Bickford invented an "automatic knitting machine" and he encountered the problems described by BillJones while he was in Europe promoting/selling his invention. I have a small clipped advertisement circa 1880 pertaining to his machines, it seemed like a natural addition to my collection of these interesting SC$'s.

    Great info @keets.

    Here's some information on Bickford's knitting machine. Since the company is from Vermont, it looks like he could be the one mentioned my earlier post above.

    http://www.oldtymestockings.com/sock_machines_american.html

    Amazon also has a couple of reprint books by Bickford:

    • Illustrated Instruction Book for the Bickford Family Knitting Machine - 1875
    • Illustrated Instructions for Setting Up and Running the Bickford Family Knitting Machine: Also for Making the Different Articles Thereon
  • ADGADG Posts: 443 ✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Cool coin. One was up for auction recently.

    Yes. Saw one on Ebay, but did not go for it. Interested in it because of my bimetallic coin collection.

    The pardon is for tyrants. They like to declare pardons on holidays, such as the birthday of the dictator, or Christ, or the Revolution. Dictators should be encouraged to keep it up. And we should be encouraged to remember that the promiscuous dispensation of clemency is not a sign of political liberality. It is instead one of those valuable, identifying marks of tyranny.
    Charles Krauthammer

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    they come to up for sale at eBay rather routinely, Steve Hayden just listed one today. also, if you search in Exonumia with "Bickford" you'll get to what's listed easily if these interest you. about 3-4 of what I call Perpetual Listings by one seller with two ID's, nice medals that go wanting because they are over-priced, have been up at eBay for quite some time. there is also a seller from the Vermont/New England area that must have had a large group of Bickford Dollars, mainly HK-835, that he lists regularly. they are usually MS64-66 and nice medals.

    HK-833 un-holed with the insert.

    HK-836 with the wire for attaching to a ribbon. I can't seem to locate a picture of the ribbon which was removed to encapsulate the medal.

    these pictures should interest Bill, they are of a medal from the same era about the Silver lobby and William Jennings Bryan.


  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whenever I can get it in print, there is a lengthy article concerning Bickford and his coin ideas. It is quite different from the usual story.

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the eagle on the obverse.. rimshot

    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting... I was not aware of the attempts to make international coinage... Will have to do some more research on this.... Cheers, RickO

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There were many attempts to create coins that were exchangeable at simple ratios. The only successful scheme was the Latin Monetary Union which used identical standards for member countries.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2018 9:04AM

    @RogerB said:
    There were many attempts to create coins that were exchangeable at simple ratios. The only successful scheme was the Latin Monetary Union which used identical standards for member countries.

    From Wikipedia: the Latin Monetary Union (LMU) an "attempt to unify several European currencies into a single currency that could be used in all the member states" and lasted from 1865 to 1927. The Stella was the US attempt to join the LMU.

    Of course, some European countries were eventually successful in moving to a single currency, the Euro, which was adopted in 1995 and introduced to the financial markets in 1999.

  • dengadenga Posts: 922 ✭✭✭

    It is not well known but there was a Bickford international half dollar
    struck at the Philadelphia Mint in 1876. For those interested in this
    matter, Gobrecht Journal #127 (September 2016) has the details.

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