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Former U.S. Postal Service worker admits burning mail for months

KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 13, 2018 9:00PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Anyone mailed coins or bought coins from anyone in Louisiana 12/16 to 6/17 & the coins were "lost"?

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/former-u-s-postal-service-worker-admits-burning-mail-for-months/

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it was a cold winter in Louisiana..... ?

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lock him up and make him recite the oath every hour........"Neither rain, nor snow, nor dark of night will sway these swift carriers from their appointed rounds". Unfortunately, a whole lot of damage is done before the Postal Inspectors catch them.

    But they WILL catch them. I saw it all first hand when I worked there.

    Pete

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    That’s a lot of Bed Bath and Beyond coupons.

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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Makes me think these carriers are being pushed beyond breaking point and when they don't break the boss man investigates why.

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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    Thus the term "Going Postal"

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I despise any molesting of the mail, but I have spoken to some carriers and they are pushed to the limit, in some cases limits thst seem pretty impossible. But just don't mess wirh my mail, please.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Utterly criminal for postal workers to destroy or steal mail. They should let Guido and Vito work him over with lead pipes as a deterrence to others.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would wager he went through it looking for cash etc. prior to burning it.... Cheers, RickO

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Only one thought comes to mind...

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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Less than 10% of post offices do enough business to pay their bills, politics makes it almost impossible to close any. I live in a rural area surrounded by even more rural areas and I'm a 15 minute drive from 15 post offices, very difficult to operate efficiently.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would wager he went through it looking for cash etc. prior to burning it.... Cheers, RickO

    I'm sure you are correct in that statement Ricko. Could probably have theft charges also but could be more difficult to prove.

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical Federal worker getting off light. Why not each count? Take the complaints number divide by 20% and that’s the real number. Then apply the sentence. Of course the could always plead insane by BBB. Bed bath and beyond.

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  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For over 50 years I often said I was amazed at the Post Office, since I never had any lost mail (that I know of). Now in the past 4 months I know of at least 3 pieces of my mail that were lost in the mail. Or maybe they are still on the way?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Utterly criminal for postal workers to destroy or steal mail. They should let Guido and Vito work him over with lead pipes as a deterrence to others.

    I agree. This is kind of stuff that can ruin your credit rating and your reputation. It can also result in the destruction valuable merchandise, including coins and paper money. There is no excuse for this.

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  • How much mail is in “a tub”?

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • JOsborneJOsborne Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    Another voter upset with the presidential election result.

  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    Any carrier that I have run into destroying mail limited it to third class advertising. It’s less likely to be missed and traced.

  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:
    Makes me think these carriers are being pushed beyond breaking point and when they don't break the boss man investigates why.

    Which is why I gave my carrier booze (okay a decent bottle of wine) for her Christmas gift. They aren't supposed take money/gift cards but food items are okay. Liquidy grapes in this case.


  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a couple parcels go missing last winter, one which I handed to a letter carrier, it showed no tracking for days. So I confronted the guy and he went ballistic on me showering me with profanity. I reported him but he was kept on the same route.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shorecoll said:
    Less than 10% of post offices do enough business to pay their bills, politics makes it almost impossible to close any. I live in a rural area surrounded by even more rural areas and I'm a 15 minute drive from 15 post offices, very difficult to operate efficiently.

    The Post Office Department is stuck in the same position as the old AT&T (phone company). Back before there were cell phones, the phone in your house had to be connected by a landline which was very expensive to build and maintain, especially in the rural areas. Some wires had to go for miles to service a small number of customers. The concept of “universal service” came into play, however, which required the phone companies to reach those areas. The component that kept the system above water was long distance service. The revenue generated from that subsidized local service.

    The Post Office is still in the same position. So long as we have physical mail, there is going to have be local service to deliver it, and customers don’t want to have to drive long distances to mail materials. I imagine that package delivery has provided some subsidies to basic mail service, but the Post Office some stiff competition in the regard from UPS, Federal Express and others. Perhaps the solution will be universal computerized mail service, but that is still probably a generation away.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I had a couple parcels go missing last winter, one which I handed to a letter carrier, it showed no tracking for days. So I confronted the guy and he went ballistic on me showering me with profanity. I reported him but he was kept on the same route.

    If he is on foot don't do that its annoying.

    Its not really a great idea anyway even if its a truck delivering to your box out by the street , too many things can go wrong , like your outgoing mail being deposited in a mailbox 10 houses down the street.

    Another postal don't, don't drop your important letter in an outdoor metal box in a snow or rainstorm unless you want it to be destroyed.

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @shorecoll said:
    Less than 10% of post offices do enough business to pay their bills, politics makes it almost impossible to close any. I live in a rural area surrounded by even more rural areas and I'm a 15 minute drive from 15 post offices, very difficult to operate efficiently.

    The Post Office Department is stuck in the same position as the old AT&T (phone company). Back before there were cell phones, the phone in your house had to be connected by a landline which was very expensive to build and maintain, especially in the rural areas. Some wires had to go for miles to service a small number of customers. The concept of “universal service” came into play, however, which required the phone companies to reach those areas. The component that kept the system above water was long distance service. The revenue generated from that subsidized local service.

    The Post Office is still in the same position. So long as we have physical mail, there is going to have be local service to deliver it, and customers don’t want to have to drive long distances to mail materials. I imagine that package delivery has provided some subsidies to basic mail service, but the Post Office some stiff competition in the regard from UPS, Federal Express and others. Perhaps the solution will be universal computerized mail service, but that is still probably a generation away.

    Well, 3D printing is a thing, so maybe eventually we will be able to 'mail' things in this manner.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a comment made about how big a "tub" is.

    Tubs became popular in the 1990's as a way of transporting mail. A "tub" is made of plastic with the top reinforced with metal to give it strength. Tubs are used by Letter Carriers to load mail into their delivery vehicles for delivery. They are also used in collection boxes, which gives you an idea of their size.

    Before tubs, mail was transported in burlap sacks. Those "green" boxes you sometimes see on corners are called "Relay" boxes. Carriers with "walk out" routes that do not use a mail truck can only take a part of their route out the door with them, as the "satchel Carts" only hold so much.

    Before a Carrier leaves the office, they load the Satchel Cart with as much as they can. They take with them enough mail to get to a relay box, then reload there and continue on.

    "Relay Mail" is prepared by the Carrier before leaving the office. It is then transported to the Relay Box by truck. Carriers used sacks to make relay mail, but the tubs are much easier to transport and unload from.

    Hope this helped...............

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    (I'm venting, and this was just a convenient thread. :) Move along if you don't want to hear it.)

    Here's the problem I run across a couple, three times a year:

    If my limping mailman can't complete his route, this is the message I get. "NO ACCESS" is complete bullcrap. In addition, there's a trace amount of snow on my front walkway, and no one stepped on it, so there wasn't even an attempt to deliver my mail or the package.

    The reason should really state, "Personnel too lazy to deliver." :rage:

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @logger7 said:
    Utterly criminal for postal workers to destroy or steal mail. They should let Guido and Vito work him over with lead pipes as a deterrence to others.

    It can also result in the destruction valuable merchandise, including coins and paper money.

    I expect that that person didn't really care. Kinda like a poor person who drives a gas-wasting polluting vehicle cares about the environment. If security of valuables is important then choose the appropriate shipping service.

    theknowitalltroll;

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