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Can you tell if this 1796 coin is made in China?

HappyHuntingHappyHunting Posts: 31 ✭✭
edited January 4, 2018 9:18PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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    CoinPhysicistCoinPhysicist Posts: 620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2018 9:55PM

    2 second glance. Yes. Fake.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep. Wrong rim and denticles.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photo quality is what you would expect when these things are offered in eBay.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will, it almost certainly wasn't made in Philadelphia. It definitely wasn't made in a US Mint facility.

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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018 6:54AM

    There are 3 or 4 levels of fakes from China. Only one company (I believe) has US made presses, more likely have US made die steel, the other stuff could be from anywhere.

    edit to add: The ones most likely from China are the ones you almost can't tell are fake.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure, made in a mint not called Philly

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From that picture, I would definitely say 'fake'. Real coins would have much better pictures. Cheers, RickO

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep........the good ones are getting better. But the bad fakes still hurt the Hobby.

    Pete

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2018 3:28AM

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    Yep........the good ones are getting better. But the bad fakes still hurt the Hobby.

    Pete

    ALL modern fakes hurt the hobby especially the good ones.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭

    Members able to do an analysis of that coin based on the picture have better eyes and much more knowledge than me. Thanks!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One thing you can be sure of ... this thing was not made in 1796 or early 1797 when the real coins were struck.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    earlycoinsearlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭

    Appears to be one of the missing proof dollars produced in the 1830s.

    Possibly from the second King of Siam set?

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must need glasses.

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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it has PL qualities.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counterfeit. Likely made someplace in China where this sort of fraud is not a crime.

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    StampCoinGuy777StampCoinGuy777 Posts: 51 ✭✭

    fake... fake...fake... thats all the more I can say about it.

    I LOVE old coins.

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