What grade do you think NGC awarded this Morgan Dollar??
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Not a bad looking Morgan - (NGC) MS-66
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
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64 maybe 65
Notice the S on the reverse
Prooflike...yes
Proof...no.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
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66.4 CAC * +
Haze and fingerprint may be hiding a PL surface but from what I see MS64.
bob
MS65+
The plus is for the fingerprint.
Thats a pretty coin!
64
Nice coin. 65
64
Looks like there’s too much going on there to go any better than MS-63, but they probably gave it a 64.
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63pl
I'm thinking 63PL also.
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It's probably in an older holder as a 65 Pl or DMPL.
Crack it out and submit to PCGS will now probably get you a 63/64 non PL.
64
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Looks like 65 maybe stretch to a 66.
I suspect that you would not have posted the coin if that was in that grade range, so I will say MS67 (and probably in a Stacks 57th st. holder)
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Just wondering are you saying they are harder on resubmissions getting cracked out on the older ones? Or were they to soft when these were first slabbed say 7+ years ago or when these were slabbed? Just wondering. I like the older ones and I always thought it might be the opposite and that you would get a better grade. Or is it just based coin by coin? TYIA
To me, and for that date, it looks like a MS63+ but can't tell if it's PL or what some of the chatter and staining really is. I'm guessing NGC has it as a MS64.
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I like it at GEM MS65. NGC might have awarded the extra point (MS66) for original skin.
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NGC had/has a different standard than PCGS on what coins were considered PL/DMPL.
The toning on the coin looks like what a lot of the older holder NGC coins developed after many years in the holder.
The coin could have been blast white when it was first slabbed.
That type of toning/haze would now probably prevent the coin from being considered PL/DMPL at PCGS.
63*
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I'm not loving it...just looks like a 64 from the pic and maybe PL.
Tom
Agree, but the two ?? In the thread title make me think the "correct answer" isn't so obvious.
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I agree with MS63.
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Well that is the definition of a tomb
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needs a bath
Late to the game, but not surprised.... Looks solid at 64... Cheers, RickO
Yeah, there are plenty of coins in old DMPL/DPL holders that are almost prooflike.
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It should be sent to them under their guarantee, it is their middle name after all.
I have done so, the coin comes back in a PL holder and you get a credit, not a check. At one point they blamed the problem of overgraded coins on a rogue grader who was sacked.
I guessed (in my head) 64 PL and then scrolled down to see I can grade old coins, lol.
I guessed (in my head) 64 PL and then scrolled down to see I can grade old coins
except that the coin is more MS63 and actually looks polished on the obverse.
64 looks about spot on, maybe the DPL is a mechanical error ?
I will not buy an old Fatty DPL unless I can see it in person. My personal experience, about 7 out of 10 are not even PL by today's strict grading.
Don't doubt it for a minute. The standards for DPL and DMPL are not the same today as back then. MS 64 seems right.
<<<<<<< this coin was deemed "PL" by our hosts as an example.
I maintain my 63* guess. You didn’t mention the generation of the NGC holder
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I was going to say 64. DPL is just not right, unless the pics are hiding it...
I have at least one, maybe two PCGS Morgans graded DMPL that would have no chance grading the same today IMO
The holder is in good shape
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I'm seeing die flow lines not polishing lines