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Mint Set Toning Question: Are These Worth Getting Graded/Slabbed?

PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

This particular 1958 Double Mint set has three nicely toned coins; however, the tone is on the reverse! It's difficult to capture the mostly blue, hints of purple/reds on these- particularly the Franklin. Colors display more of a glossy luster on reverse, and the Franklin is covered in color on the reverse; although the picture doesn't capture the quality.

Based on the technical grade, and color- would you submit these three for grading?

Also, what is the best way to store these sets? Do you give coins acetone bath then put in flips, or, let alone in OGP in moisture free environment?

Thanks!

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think they warrant grading based on the toning.

    If however, they are super mark-free, then perhaps they should be sent in.

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  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    I don't think they warrant grading based on the toning.

    If however, they are super mark-free, then perhaps they should be sent in.

    The Roosevelt I believe @ 67, Washington @ 66, and the Franklin I'd put close to maybe @ 66. IMO.

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say no to submitting but perhaps if you leave them in a warm environment, perhaps you can revisit the color in 10 years!

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. The color isn't going to get you much of a premium, and my personal grades are:

    MS66
    MS66
    MS65+ shot MS66

    Even if the dime is a 67, it is probably only a $40 coin.

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, no I don't think the color would be a reason to submit them. It is however a nice looking double mint set.

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  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, wouldn't do it.

    And I don't see the Franklin any higher than a 64, even if the toning is nice on the reverse.

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    keep them how they are in the set. They are likely worth more that way unless you have some ultra clean coins that would grade MS66 or better.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would suggest you keep the set intact for greater overall liquidity and likely a higher net upon sale.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree, I would keep them intact !!! :)

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PocketArt said:
    The Roosevelt I believe @ 67, Washington @ 66, and the Franklin I'd put close to maybe @ 66. IMO.

    Looking at values, I would think you would need 67, 67, 66 to justify grading - but when you consider how it would decrease the value of your mint set I would leave them with the set.

  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭

    Nothing on the 'spectacular' scale, nice set of mint state coins and preservation, just keep them with the COA material and thy will always do well.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep them 'as is' ..... IMO not worth grading.... set will sell better than individual coins, which would leave you with 'remnants'... Cheers, RickO

  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭

    Not worth the grading fees. And the colors are nice ......but not that nice.

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  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very good, thanks all for feedback. I'll leave set intact- what has been presented makes sense. Wasn't sure if the colors warranted any substantial premium over technical, and they don't so I'll save $$$.

    I'll give these a good acetone bath, and blow out the OGP with compressed air. There's very fine cardboard fibers/particles I've noticed on some coins, and that probably isn't good.

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In hand, how bad does that thumbprint on Washington's neck look? It looks like it might be an old print, hopefully it's fresh, the acetone bath would help then.

  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good eye. It's old- not too bad; but apparent enough to notice. I haven't soaked these yet and know acetone won't change coin in that regards. Thought about dabbing a bit of MS70 in that area- IDK. Probably just let alone after acetone soak- concerned it would take away the original toning and look out of place. I'd have a worse off problem than I began, and not overly distracting: scale of 1-10 for prints I'd put it at a 3-4.

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have certainly seen worse. The ones that really bug me are the ones that are etched into the toning on Morgan Dollars. Your's is not that bad, but eye picks up on them like a hawk hunting mice.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why do you appear so intent on working on the coins? They survived essentially 60-years in their holder with only mild toning while building up a layer of oxidation (skin, patina, whatever...) and they haven't changed all that much in that time.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That dime looks like a 67 in my opinion, and possibly a Full Bands to boot. Nice dime dude!


    Later, Paul.
  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Why do you appear so intent on working on the coins? They survived essentially 60-years in their holder with only mild toning while building up a layer of oxidation (skin, patina, whatever...) and they haven't changed all that much in that time.

    This is my first double mint set, so really just a discovery process on quality of toning, storage, and maintaining the integrity of set. I'm just going to give these an acetone bath, and blow out the cardboard fibers/particles in the OGP. You can see a fiber at the 3 o'clock position on rim of dime- would like to clear packaging of any loose particles.

  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:
    That dime looks like a 67 in my opinion, and possibly a Full Bands to boot. Nice dime dude!

    I'll get better photo's of coin tonight - appears to have all vertical/horizontal bands under magnification; but I'll let Roosie experts way in- thanks. The '58 is tough with FT so should have some critical eyes looking at coin.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The positive aspect to slabbing these is selling the sets raw via mail can be a headache.

    Folks want to see them in hand to pop the coins out to see both sides.

    If returned there's a chance they messed up the holders or fingerprinted the coins.

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  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Photo's are tricky- with further evaluation, I don't see enough on the toned Roosie to ask if FT...too much weakness on the lower portion of torch. There maybe a chance with the other 1958 Roosevelt in double mint set...but it may be a stretch on complete bands. You be the judge- thanks for help.

  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say yes to the FB's on the top and a no to the bands on the bottom. The bottom bands have too many hits for me.


    Later, Paul.
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PocketArt said:

    @Stooge said:
    That dime looks like a 67 in my opinion, and possibly a Full Bands to boot. Nice dime dude!

    I'll get better photo's of coin tonight - appears to have all vertical/horizontal bands under magnification; but I'll let Roosie experts way in- thanks. The '58 is tough with FT so should have some critical eyes looking at coin.

    I said no on the dime because it didn't look FB to me (but I'm not a Roosie expert). If the bands are full, it may very well be worth submitting in a future economy submission.

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