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ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

Authentic? I only have images, not the coin in hand. TIA



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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would expect the date to be more worn down.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure, but do not like the mark to the left of the 'D'...Though it could be random. Cheers, RickO

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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To my eyes it looks kosher, but I'm not an expert.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ok to me at first glance. The inside of the D appears to be the right triangular shape.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YES! Now look on the Internet for a clue to this coin's authenticity. It is on the obverse. The diagnostic clue can be "transferred" to a counterfeit die but that did not happen here. I >:) will answer tonight if no one gets it.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you referring to the tiny die crack from the bust to the rim @ 5:00?

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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭

    I always look for the bottom of the 1 & 9 in date being in a straight line with top corner of the D mintmark if a line were drawn, looks good to me.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jedm said: "Are you referring to the tiny die crack from the bust to the rim @ 5:00?"

    Bingo! Thanks for the info! BTW, this is only on some genuine 14-D coins.

    @kevinstang said: "I always look for the bottom of the 1 & 9 in date being in a straight line with top corner of the D mintmark if a line were drawn,"

    This is not reliable. There are several different mintmark positions on the genuine coins.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After answering I took out my ANACS VF-30 example and there was NO die crack... So my example is either an earlier die example or another die altogether, correct?

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭✭

    Authentic, yes. Pretty or choice, no.

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the information.


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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree it is authentic.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's authentic. No doubt. It is the die set that has the die crack from the rim to Lincolns coat.

    I personally like this obverse die because of the marker.

    Pete

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's authentic. but a problem coin
    I recommend passing

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2017 5:23PM

    @VanHalen said:
    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

    Please show me where I can buy one for $20. In fact, I'll pay $40 for one like I posted.


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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2017 5:24PM

    It appears to be real to me, die crack and mint mark position both look good.

    Like @PTVETTER, I'm not sure this would be the one I would have in my collection, but then again if you got it at a good price who are we to second guess?

    FWIW, here's the example I own, and you can see the die crack (along with some gunk):

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice photos on the coin- I agree with others with this '14-D as being authentic. The scratch on the reverse at 9 o'clock is a bit distracting, and not sure this one would straight grade. The scrapes on obverse coat, and hair I could live with notwithstanding the reverse. I don't think this would straight grade because of reverse scratch; but, it's authentic.

    Here is something to look out for on the 1914- D's....altered date. Dad ended up with this back in the '60's when he and my Uncle were purchasing a collection. I haven't seen my Unc's '14-D yet as they both "kept" one- he has his in the bank. Next time I head down to AL, he's going to pull it out for me to look at...

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said: "Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most."

    Really? Really? Perhaps you should check a price sheet to actually find out what "most" would value it before posting nonsense. :wink:

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PocketArt said:
    Nice photos on the coin- I agree with others with this '14-D as being authentic. The scratch on the reverse at 9 o'clock is a bit distracting, and not sure this one would straight grade. The scrapes on obverse coat, and hair I could live with notwithstanding the reverse. I don't think this would straight grade because of reverse scratch; but, it's authentic.

    Here is something to look out for on the 1914- D's....altered date. Dad ended up with this back in the '60's when he and my Uncle were purchasing a collection. I haven't seen my Unc's '14-D yet as they both "kept" one- he has his in the bank. Next time I head down to AL, he's going to pull it out for me to look at...

    Thanks for sharing!

      
    

    I'm looking to fill a space in an album, so not slabbable isn't a big deal to me. Thanks.


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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    YES! Now look on the Internet for a clue to this coin's authenticity. It is on the obverse. The diagnostic clue can be "transferred" to a counterfeit die but that did not happen here. I >:) will answer tonight if no one gets it.

    In my opinion you insider2 are a very good educator.

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    @VanHalen said: "Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most."

    Really? Really? Perhaps you should check a price sheet to actually find out what "most" would value it before posting nonsense. :wink:

    A raw, heavily damaged '14-D with about good details? Take to any dealer and see what they offer you.

    I wouldn't give $20 for it.

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2017 6:31PM

    @ajaan said:

    @VanHalen said:
    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

    Please show me where I can buy one for $20. In fact, I'll pay $40 for one like I posted.

    Like I posted above. This coin is a heavily worn, heavily damaged POS. If you want to throw your money away go ahead. Take it to any dealer and you'll get $20 tops.

    Just a heads up for you and Insider2.

    Here's certified piece for $32 I'd compare it to: https://coins.ha.com/itm/lincoln-cents/1914-d

    A far better piece than the OP's for $47:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/lincoln-cents/1914-d-1c-damaged

    As a final note: Heritage's current value for a certified, problem-free FR2 1914-D is $45-$60.

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:

    @ajaan said:

    @VanHalen said:
    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

    Please show me where I can buy one for $20. In fact, I'll pay $40 for one like I posted.

    Like I posted above. This coin is a heavily worn, heavily damaged POS. If you want to throw your money away go ahead. Take it to any dealer and you'll get $20 tops.

    Just a heads up for you and Insider2.

    Here's certified piece for $32 I'd compare it to: https://coins.ha.com/itm/lincoln-cents/1914-d

    A far better piece than the OP's for $47:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/lincoln-cents/1914-d-1c-damaged

    One again, I ask for you to show me where I can buy one for $20 today. Not a coin that sold 8 years ago. I really want to buy one.


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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn't say you could "buy one today for $20". I said it's worth $20 to most dealers. Go ahead and throw whatever money you want at it.

    Junk coins sell very cheap these days. That's a junk coin worth $20 wholesale today.

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's it worth non-wholesale? Like an internet buyer.


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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:
    I didn't say you could "buy one today for $20". I said it's worth $20 to most dealers. Go ahead and throw whatever money you want at it.

    Junk coins sell very cheap these days. That's a junk coin worth $20 wholesale today.

    Ok, so most dealers you know would rob... er, I mean offer $20 for the coin from a little old lady. I cannot argue with your experience. My experience is different. I know three major wholesale coin dealers and two small dealers who make an unbelievable (to me) business selling coins as this after they are slabbed or "raw." If a "doctor" turns this coin brown, your tune may change. Perhaps the old lady would walk out with $20.75. LOL!

    For our education, I wish the OP would start a new discussion as a mock auction: "What is this coin worth to you?" After the serious bids pass $50 and the "jokers" here start posting stupid money, we'll have a better understanding of the coins value. My first bid is $60. :p

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2017 7:58PM

    So the TL;DR answer is $60? :grin:


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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:
    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

    Sorry. You are way off. I have seen too many of these sell to put the value that low.

    Larry

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    BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also have an empty hole in one of my albums, I'll continue the bid @ $65.


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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldhair said:

    @VanHalen said:
    Looks authentic and worth little. A $20 coin to most.

    Sorry. You are way off. I have seen too many of these sell to put the value that low.

    I agree....the coin the OP posted will sell for $60-$75 all day long.

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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are doing an album and you can pick this up for under $100 I think you did ok. Its not like you will make loads of money from it. Its just an ok coin to fill a tough hole.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do not discount these coins. 1914-D Lincolns, even problem coins, sell for decent money. It fills that nasty hole in collectors albums. It is what it is. not everyone wants a no problem, or a certified example.

    The coin itself has a mystical quality to it. I yearned for one as a young numismatist, only able to purchase an example after I got older and was able to.

    I have since handled (owned) 7 of them. I still have 2 low grade. The rest I dealt out to family for graduations and such.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1914-D Lincoln has a special meaning to me also. It is the only Lincoln cent my Uncle couldn't find in circulation when he collected in the 30s, 40s, and 50s. He did snatch a 09-s VDB out of the wild.


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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 23, 2017 9:49AM

    @VanHalen said: "Just a heads up for you and Insider2."

    Thanks but no thanks. My hair is blond but it came out of a bottle! I only value "informed" opinions.

    Trying to defend a ridiculous post by using the value of a HEAVILY DAMAGED coin that sold for $32 is more nonsense. Then, you post something that makes our case: "...a problem-free Fair coin "books" for $45-$60."
    Now you are talking, but $20? As I explained in a PM - I don't think so. ;) Happy Thanksgiving!

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