First membership submission(gotta go back to school)
jesbroken
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Well after several days with no computer due to a hard drive failure and a backup disc failure, I had to buy a new computer and lo and behold after I got it setup and in commission I found my first membership submission was graded and was I ever surprised. I did not see what they saw for the most part. One coin I was concerned may have been cleaned, but not 5 out of 8.
My bad. I'll will learn as I have another 15 sitting in process. Now I am scared. Below I'll show the coins that were found to have been cleaned. Also note that coin #1 color does not look at all like that, I lost my inhand pics and this is the sellers pic. I was truly surprised at the last two. But then I find that I am lacking in ability to see a cleaning that is not harsh. To learn, to learn.
Jim
Added: I know that cleaning is hard to tell from pics, but to my loss I had them inhand and did not see the cleaning.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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Not my series and i have a tough time with them too, but the second to last one looks cleaned.
Also not my series by far, but the last 3 definitely look cleaned to me. The shine (I'm not calling it luster) of them look like a cleaning. The first two aren't as obvious, but I'll say the TPG knows what they're doing.
This is coming from someone who had 7 out of 25 come back as cleaned (I knew, or strongly suspected cleaning on all but one of the 7).
Third from last has vertical lines going across the buff.
Coin #1 and #4 are the same coin. that's quite a difference in photography. Looks like it has something on the surface but not necessarily a cleaning.
The 13-s and the 13T2 I can see might be cleaned, the 15 I'm not sure.
I recently had a 37-D 3 leg come back as AU details cleaned... I thought it was an honest AU coin, no abbrasion or hairlines on it.
Collector, occasional seller
Nickel being a hard metal makes detecting cleaning more difficult, for me at least.
Add to that PCGS won't allow light cleanings like they might in, for instance, an early silver dollar or large cent.
Live and learn.
W/o seeing them in hand:
The 13P Ty1 looks like it may have been lacquered?
The 13S Ty1 looks like it may have been cleaned.
The others look Ok to me.
Thank you, Chris. As I said, I lost everything when my harddrive crashed and was only able to pick up pics via my registry inventory file. I evidently do not have a pic of the other 13 t1 that I submitted and was found to be cleaned. I did not notice they were the same coin. The 1st was the seller's pic and the second Crazyhounddog's. What a difference, huh?
I appreciate your replies. Here are the three that made it and were graded. Just so happened the last two were my favorites of the raw MS coins.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I'd go back to the dealer if some dealer claimed they were Unc. or nice gradable coins, obviously you thought they were worth submitting which I doubt.
Simple grading, quality assessment comes with a magnifier in the right type of light, tilting the coin to ascertain surface preservation condition, where is the luster, wear, etc.. Compare to online examples and grades on PCGS, auctions etc..
I have to agree with other posters who point out the ‘shine’ look is suspect
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Tough series to master. 5 out of 8 cleaned is not a good lesson.
I love buying coins declared cleaned that are borderline. So many will grade problem-free on another day.
It doesn't always work out but often enough. Sometimes just a little time on the sill or in an old envelope is all it takes.
Lance.
I agree with Lance.... allow them to age a while..... When they get back, study them a bit, take pictures... then age them and resubmit..... Cheers, RickO