New Purchase- 1799 $1
jwitten
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I am mainly a gold guy. And by mainly I mean ONLY gold. However, I've been wanting to pick up a coin from the 1700's, and ended up getting this one. I would love opinions from the experts on these. Please be gentle, as I have no idea if I got ripped, or did ok, etc. I liked the looks of it though, and it was in my budget. Without looking up the sale, what are your thoughts on grade, decent price, variety, etc? Thanks!
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VG-Fine. Due to the vintage the graders probably overlooked the neck scratches/ $1000 should be about right.
Normal date, 13 stars reverse, 7/6 stars obverse, no berries.
I like it, and if you do that's all that really counts...
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Not bad and you could have done a LOT worse.
Without looking at resource materials, I'd say F12. Decent piece for sure. Enjoy it!
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Looks like it may have been ever so gently cleaned with baking soda and water back in the 60's. A charming coin and well worth 1K I'd think.
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I like it and also hope to get one of those someday. I think I'd prefer one a tad darker.
If you like it and plan on getting something similar at some point down the road.
Congrats.
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I like it, and there aren't many in this grade range that don't have serious problems.
If you're looking for others, I recommend being pretty sensitive to rim issues.
Id say fine and about a $1300 Coin, (if its straght graded) I agree with the early cleaning comment. But hey, if you were 200 + years old.... , I like it.
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I think you did good! Nice coin!
Thanks for the comments! It is graded VG-8, and I paid $1,150, but also had 8% ebay bucks promo, so will be getting some cash back ($92) to save on a future coin. What's everyone's thoughts on the grade? Would it cross to PCGS?
Yes I think it would cross. I would have a hard time deciding if to send it in raw or not, Its on the line in between grade levels imo.
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You did ok, I would leave her as is.
Probably s VG10/10+ that took a hit for the rim chinks.
This looks like a fine coin to own as a collector. Though not too rare, it seems that the coin was cleaned. Nevertheless, you got a decent coin for 1k.
nice pick up, I would have gone for it.
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I sold one of those with a little more originality graded a 10 for a little under a thousand. Great coins.
I was going to say that they probably called it a fine, but I really like it as a very good. That doesn't sound like a lot of money. Weren't they worth close to this 30 years ago ?
I grade it a vg 10. $1150 is very fair overall. Should cross as such. Enjoy!
I definitely like it. Great even wear on a 200+ yr old coin with no real damage, gotta love that. I would send it to PCGS at "Cross at any grade." It will cross at VG8 IMO. Nice coin
I like it. It's also a great coin to engage non-collectors to pique their interest!
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Thanks guys! I really like the small eagle coins too, but those seem PRICEY! What would be a decent price to pay for a similar condition $1 small eagle, any date?
I would expect it to cross. The obverse is a solid F15, the reverse brings the overall down to a VG.
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@jwitten.....I like the coin... and I am also attracted to the '17XX' date coins. One question... on the reverse, looking at the stars...the extreme left star seems totally different than the others (small and thin compared to 'heavy'). I did not see any like that in the Mega book.... Is there any information on this?? Cheers, RickO
@ricko, you are aware that I am by far no expert but I found this that looks similar.
1799 P Normal Date - 8x5 Stars Obverse
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@1630Boston ...Thanks.... I had only looked at the Mega Red.... so now I just need the backstory... someone must have researched this anomaly. Cheers, RickO
My mistake, the OP's coin is "7x6 stars ?
But the weak star on the reverse is similar I think
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Here is the 7x6 Stars
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I would think that it should cross
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I like the coin. So many of these 200 year old coins have problems. I think you did good.
To answer your question, a small eagle in VG8 is going to cost double what this one did.
I also like this date, don't know why though, perhaps it's because the end of a century?
Nice piece, great look to it.
Don't know if anyone has mentioned the die marriage
but I believe it is a B-12 BB-160. If i'm correct the obv
die was used to only strike BB-160, but the rev die struck
BB-158, 159, 158 again, 160 & 161. The dies were lapped
quit a bit resulting in the smaller star under cloud
one, the near erasing of rev star 10 and the rev lack of
berries. The rev U has a damaged left upright.
It's odd that with all this lapping the OP coin does not show
any die cracks that developed at die states II and III and
IV primarily on the obverse.
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Received it today (along with this beauty back from anacs)! Here's how it looks in my pictures.
Like the dollar. Nice honest wear.
Looks nice - here's the PCGS standard for potential cross.
I like more layers of age, classic soap bath done long ago. Still better than the one I don’t have. Very cool coin
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