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To much chatter for a 5?
morgansforever
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Just curious what ya'll think 4, 4+, or a 5?
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just a 4
63+ could go 64.To much going on in the obverse fields.
64, and not a particularly strong one at that.
I don't see this as any better than a 64, that mark on the reverse limits the grade IMO.
Ditto.
I'm seeing a 4. No 5
64, no sticker.
Agree with above. Strike and (apparent) Luster aren't good enough to overcome marks, either.
4+
Looks nice, but just a 64.
Ms Morgan is looking right at the biggest issue. If the chatter were behind the head, then maybe a little better than MS 64. That ax wound on the reverse only hurts the grade.
64
63 is the absolute best it could grade if I sent it in
I concur with @10000Lakes following quoted post.
Stuart
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Don't like the hit near the beak. Probably not that bad in hand. I am in the tepid 64 camp.
I'm saying 4. The obverse marks might squeak a 5 with a very nice reverse, but that reverse mark is a nail in the coffin for a 5.
Shot 4
Maybe 64.
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If by "5" you mean "MS-65" then no, it is not even close to MS-65 or MS-64..... makes it to MS-63 (especially with that nasty slice on the reverse).
4 here at PCGS
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Did you notice its appears to be a VAM 15? (Doubled liberty) 1 sale of a ms64, at $2500
Old school 63 but would likely 64 by today’s standards.
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Actually it's a VAM-17. Which is one of the most common 8TF varieties.
Thankyou all for your input. I was thinking because it's a better date, the graders might loosen the reigns and be generous. I've seen 5's that aren't much cleaner.
I agree with folks saying 64, but it is a good looker none the less.
If it ever garnered a MS-65 status, there would be a thread, "How did this one ever get to a 65?"
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My grade would be MS-64, and not the best representative example for the grade. There is no way that coin should be graded MS-65.
64 for me
I'm afraid I'm in the 63 camp. Of course, we all know that we should ONLY grade coins when they are online with over-sized pictures
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That planchet defect on the reverse, while not a grading factor, in all likelihood, bothers me......
MS63.... maybe without the magnification a low end 64..... Cheers, RickO
64 here.
63 would be my guess.
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Should not be a 65.
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My guess would be 63+.
If this guy is a 65, yours can be too...live the dream...
Don't quote me on that.
63, shot at 64.
Could easily grade as a 64 coin. I've seen worse in 65 holders....and certainly as good or better in 63 holders.
Acceptable with a 64 grade imo.
yup!
Not a gem, an average choice.
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Luster seems somewhat subdued and chatter on the cheek and in the prime focal area, nice coin but a strong 63 or weak 64 in my opinion.
Pete
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63 ... maybe a 63+
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Does a 66 even exist in this date?
I Like the coin quite a bit and it's what I call gemmy. However, I would grade it as low as a gemmy coin can grade; MS-63+. The surfaces and strike are nice and the die was in good condition. I'd rather have this coin than some MS-65's.