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Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!
CaptHenway
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That is what we celebrate in Colorado on the second Monday of October.
Post a picture of your favorite coin or token with a Native American on it, or in honor of my Great-Grandmother one of the Canadien "First Peoples."
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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Great choices. Still baffling how alleged "Christians" of the 1850 and 1860s had no collective protest against placing American Indians upon our copper and gold coins of the time and yet uttered slogans such as "The only good Indian is a dead Indian", which filled the newspapers of the 1860s after every massacre of Indian men, women and children for the choices lands and territories. This, while placing "In God We Trust" on our coinage. The more appropriate slogan of the time should have been "Thy Shall Not Kill" followed by "Does God Trust Us?"
Daniel Boone: Indian fighter in myth who actually had a deep respect for and friendship with Native Americans during his long lifetime.
Commems and Early Type
Here's my favorite Native Americans (my grandparents)
This is a photo the day before thanksgiving at the governor's mansion for the "traditional paying of taxes" this pic is from the late 1980'S I believe.
I'll stick to the non PC holiday.
Native American:
Stork beat me to the punch.
I don't have all that many US coins, but I do like to show them off when I get the chance
. But post yours anyway--the more the merrier!
Maybe I'll toss in a Type 1.
Happy birthday daughter of mine.
It has been Columbus Day all of my life...., and although I have great respect for Native Americans, I will not submit to this ludicrous politically correct culture. Cheers, RickO
Well, good for you but it might be suggested that what gets labelled "PC" may, just may, be a way to ignore something that has been from some perspectives wrong all along. Perhaps a bit of empathy might give pause. How would you feel to be a Native American and be presented with Columbus Day?
Like many Americans, I am only a small fraction of Native American, but still appreciate their sentiment. And as another thought, how about that Columbus celebrations took their root in what was PC some years ago and then was adopted as "mainstream". Not that it matters, but count me open to all perspectives.
Well, just Love coins, period.
What we did to the American Indians is beyond belief! We took their land, defiled their sacred burial grounds, killed the Buffalo, raided and killed their women and children, etc. etc. etc.
As a kid, I started collecting Buffalo Nickels because of what I heard about those atrocities.
My Italian heritage makes me observe Columbus day. I try to separate the two things as best as I can.
Pete
I don't think they are happy
what nonsense
I would actually have to respectfully disagree with you. 1) Columbus did not even discover America, so I think it is rather silly we celebrate his discovery of "here". 2) Columbus proceeded to massacre native people, which is a horrible thing for a human to do. So, even if it has been called Columbus day in the past I believe it is not a matter of being "politically correct" to change that to Indigenous Peoples Day. They are who we really need to celebrate, and so I simply am celebrating something different on the same day.
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Always buying numismatic literature and sample slabs.
It is OK to disagree.... I know Columbus did not discover America...that is old news. And yes, he was a cruel governor in the Caribbean..... However, since it has been an established holiday since 1937, and only recently - in this PC era we are enduring - come under fire, then yes, I consider it political correctness run amok. Cheers, RickO
What I always remember about Columbus day was we didn't have school and it was opening weekend of Antelope season. Not much has changed from my point of few.
Why is my comment regarding my celebration of my ancestry perceived by you as an attack upon your celebration of your ancestry, which I did not mention?
@CaptHenway .... I in no way intimated you were attacking my ancestry.... I rage against the politically correctness of the current culture. Cheers, RickO
Of course, the important question is.....
Is PCGS grading today?
What you say makes sense. It is simply my opinion that this is not a matter of PC, but the transfer of attention from Columbus to the native people who lived on those lands already. Thank you for sharing your opinion; hearing people's perspectives is fascinating.
YN Member of the ANA, ANS, NBS, EAC, C4, MCA, PNNA, CSNS, ILNA, TEC, and more!
Always buying numismatic literature and sample slabs.
PC is usually the right thing to do. Not always tho, but usually.
Nothing wrong with doing the right thing (PC)
Go against the right thing to do just because the right thing to do is PC is just stupid.
@KellenCoin.... I am all in favor of bringing more attention to the indigenous people of North America.... and certainly, being a fan of history, do not condone the conquering activities or attitudes of the time. It was, however, a different time with different people and beliefs. We are not responsible for those actions, however, they serve as lessons to us now. Cheers, RickO
Didn't the native people migrate from Asia? Who was here before they came?
- Bob -
"Central Valley" Roosevelts
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
If we're going to say that, we might as well say we're all Africans, African-American in terms of Americans
Ya think???
I was taught in school that humans originated in Africa, but now I have to evaluate if that is Alt Left thinking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations
Now, back to coins.
It appears your Indian and Buffalo are migrating.....
Ricko said it first. It's Columbus day for me. Indigenous people is BS....sorry. It's okay to have an Indigenous people day but how about pick another day to do it?
bob
It may seem odd today, but I was under the impression that Columbus Day was a small acknowledgment of the contributions of Italian-Americans to American life and culture (and cuisine).
I don't dare post it, but I recommend checking Google Images for 'Charlie Brown Sally Brown Columbus Day'.
How about my favorite tribe?
Might as well post these before this thread goes poof.
Lance.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
She is 28 today. (my daughter)
when she was 3, this came out
Modern crap goes on here, as usual.
Well this thread got very political so here is a fun factoid... Columbus was one of the first Europeans to taste pineapple.
It's Columbus Day where I'm at.
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happy pineapple day
(Just another work day here)
525 years ago three ship from Spain, headed by an Italian captain who grew to be hated by his crew, landed in a small island in the Caribbean. He thought it was the far east: Indonesia or "The spice Islands". Although evidence proved him wrong, he believed to the day he died that he successfully sailed to the far east from the western shores.
Along with guns and armored clothing, neither of which the natives had ever seen before, the sailors also brought diseases which the local population has no immunity for. Most perished miserable deaths.
Within the span of the next 30 years one of the worlds worst mass extinctions took place. From an estimated 110 Million in 1491, the population of both American continents sank to about 6 million. By the time people came to settle in the Americas from Europe much of the local populations had already been decimated.
Here's a coin from Mexico City, about 50 years after the "event"
Today, I'm celebrating this guy:
I am not saying you pulled the 110 million number out of your behind but I am saying you are quoting someone who pulled the number out of their behind.
Way to use a fringe crazy high guess to support your narrative, doesn’t undercut your credibility at all... maybe a little.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
The Native Population of the Americas in 1492
Second Revised Edition
Edited by William M. Denevan
With a Foreword by W. George Lovell
How many people inhabited the New World when Columbus landed on Hispaniola in 1492? How did the arrival of Europeans spark the population decline of aboriginal people in the New World?
William M. Denevan writes that, "The discovery of America was followed by possibly the greatest demographic disaster in the history of the world." Research by some scholars provides population estimates of the pre-contact Americas to be as high as 112 million in 1492, while others estimate the population to have been as low as eight million. In any case, the native population declined to less than six million by 1650.
I would also recommend:
1491 by Charles C. Mann
1493 by Charles C. Mann
Also, did you know that potatoes came from Peru? The Potato famine in Ireland was caused by ships transporting guano (bird poop used for fertilizer) from an island off the coast of Ecuador being also used to transport potatoes from Peru.
I don't really want to jump in the fray...but if anyone in this country deserves reparations it's the American Indians. The incredible cruelty against the American Indians makes the slave reparation demands look like a joke!