@Insider2 said:
Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared.
Agree with this. Some want it to mean never cleaned to justify to themselves or others the offending print, or print lines if a coin has them.
Me no like prints. If a coin even looks like it has print. Lines I pass. Now the others will come in and tell me how nasty fingerprints impart nice "toning." Even if true, no matter to me. I try not to knock what others like but once in a while the door opens.
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I have made some exceptions for something not offending to me. It will be something that only an idiot like me would notice, or care. Has to be a coin I really like. I know y'all will be looking at coins I post. Believe me, if you pick it apart and see something..... chances are I have evaluated it at every angle possible, or it ain't print or lines.
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@Insider2 said:
Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared.
Ha...that was my first thought as well. For some reason, fingerprints don't seem to bother me much either. And they are at least an indicia of originality. But since they bother so many others and since that impacts value, they do bother me at least to that extent.
Yes it is a fingerprint, that's where the AT is coming from, the fingertip oils is what is causing it to tone like that. I myself try to pass on any coin that has fingerprints on them, I hate to see it on any coin. There is nothing more disturbing to me is to see pictures in an auction and the person holding a very valuable coin with their fingers all over the coin, but that just might be me that don't like to see that happen.
Doesn't look bag toned to me. You are seeing what I believe are roller marks on the cheek. That the toning source imparted some stuff on it. Looks envelope or album toning to me.
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I see what could be a print (probably is) or it could be caused by a number of other things.
I wouldn't look at that coin and automatically think print.
Definitely not enough of a print to convict anyone.
It looks like a lightly circulated coin that someone stuck in an album at one point.
I must say, I do not see typical textile tarnish in those pictures... perhaps in different light or at an angle it would show better....and if that is indeed a print, I could live with it.... Cheers, RickO
@stman said:
Doesn't look bag toned to me. You are seeing what I believe are roller marks on the cheek. That the toning source imparted some stuff on it. Looks envelope or album toning to me.
My earlier quote you agreed with you old codger.
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I know there are a few out here that hate fingerprints, but they really don't bother me. It actually means it has not been cleaned.
Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared.
Agree with this. Some want it to mean never cleaned to justify to themselves or others the offending print, or print lines if a coin has them.
Me no like prints. If a coin even looks like it has print. Lines I pass. Now the others will come in and tell me how nasty fingerprints impart nice "toning." Even if true, no matter to me. I try not to knock what others like but once in a while the door opens.
All I see is a big chunking line from back of hair to to I / stars.
No, it does not look like a fingerprint.
@epcjimi1 said: "All I see is a big chunking line from back of hair to to I / stars."
That is not what we are writing about. Look again for a pattern in the toning.
@stman said: "Me no like prints."
Me either. Some "prints" are caused by chemical contamination during attempts to alter a coin's surface.
A view of the entire obverse would be helpful. It might be a print - probably is, but not the worst I’ve ever seen.
LOL, show us the entire reverse and the edge too!
I have made some exceptions for something not offending to me. It will be something that only an idiot like me would notice, or care. Has to be a coin I really like. I know y'all will be looking at coins I post. Believe me, if you pick it apart and see something..... chances are I have evaluated it at every angle possible, or it ain't print or lines.
Yes, not my favorite thing to see on a coin.
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Ha...that was my first thought as well. For some reason, fingerprints don't seem to bother me much either. And they are at least an indicia of originality. But since they bother so many others and since that impacts value, they do bother me at least to that extent.
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Dang it.
Last I looked, I;m pretty sure I said I thought it wasn't a fingerprint. Are you kidding me? "Look at the pattern in the toning?" Good Lord.
Like Byrce said, I usually look at the whole coin before making judgements on it.
Yes it is a fingerprint, that's where the AT is coming from, the fingertip oils is what is causing it to tone like that. I myself try to pass on any coin that has fingerprints on them, I hate to see it on any coin. There is nothing more disturbing to me is to see pictures in an auction and the person holding a very valuable coin with their fingers all over the coin, but that just might be me that don't like to see that happen.
Well,,there's textile toning all over it so maybe the fingerprint was Jesse James's
Just curious where the "textile" toning might be. Not t.rying to give a hard time here.
CHEEK you cheeky feller.
Look at the THREAD COUNT even. I'd say that was in the bag for 86 years, 4 months and 2 days.
And mint superintendent Maurice F. Hopperbottom TOUCHED it while pouring it into the canvas.
I don't know if he was the superintendent on that day though.
B. Max Mehl could tell you more.
Doesn't look bag toned to me. You are seeing what I believe are roller marks on the cheek. That the toning source imparted some stuff on it. Looks envelope or album toning to me.
Heh
not even close to being a finger print almost looks like the reed of another coin
Do reeds have arches, loops, and sworls?
Maybe, but I don't think it is a problem.
I see what could be a print (probably is) or it could be caused by a number of other things.
I wouldn't look at that coin and automatically think print.
Definitely not enough of a print to convict anyone.
It looks like a lightly circulated coin that someone stuck in an album at one point.
I don't see any textile toning either.
A couple print lines even make me feel dirty.
What is with hiding the date and reverse? Big secret I guess.
@ParlousJoe said: "Yes it is a fingerprint..."
Agree!, but the rest of this post is nonsense: "...that's where the AT is coming from, the fingertip oils is what is causing it to tone like that."
@topstuf said: "Well, there's textile toning all over it so maybe the fingerprint was Jesse James's."
Sorry to say that IMO, there is absolutely no toning on this coin that resembles textile toning.
So does a fingerprint such as this bother you??? It bothers me, and this dog was graded as an MS67FB.
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Hey some of our esteemed members say it is all about eye appeal, and no loupe. Heh heh
What is textile toning if not an impression of fabric threads in the tarnish?
The subject coin was 66 CAC
I must say, I do not see typical textile tarnish in those pictures... perhaps in different light or at an angle it would show better....and if that is indeed a print, I could live with it.... Cheers, RickO
Here's as big as I can make it. Don't those look like thread patterns?
I'm going back to stamps.
Not to me.
I'll look for an image of that characteristic. HOPEFULLY, one of the members will download a few REAL SOON. 
Never mind. Go to Google, type in :Textile toned dollar. Some of the images are just toned coins, others show the expected pattern.
I did that. Didn't know SOME were NOT as shown.
oh heck. Whatever it is is there.
My earlier quote you agreed with you old codger.
Nothing worse than a fingerprint in the gum of a stamp. LOL.
Too me, it is too unidirectional to be textiles. Where are the cross-threads?
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Responses to this post are hilarious. Bellylaff rated. Entertaining.
Imagine what they'd be if I ordered the coin.