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This looks like a fingerprint, doesn't it?

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know there are a few out here that hate fingerprints, but they really don't bother me. It actually means it has not been cleaned.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared. :wink:

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2017 11:28AM

    @Insider2 said:
    Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared. :wink:

    Agree with this. Some want it to mean never cleaned to justify to themselves or others the offending print, or print lines if a coin has them.
    Me no like prints. If a coin even looks like it has print. Lines I pass. Now the others will come in and tell me how nasty fingerprints impart nice "toning." Even if true, no matter to me. I try not to knock what others like but once in a while the door opens.

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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    All I see is a big chunking line from back of hair to to I / stars.

    No, it does not look like a fingerprint.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epcjimi1 said: "All I see is a big chunking line from back of hair to to I / stars."

    That is not what we are writing about. Look again for a pattern in the toning.

    @stman said: "Me no like prints."

    Me either. Some "prints" are caused by chemical contamination during attempts to alter a coin's surface.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A view of the entire obverse would be helpful. It might be a print - probably is, but not the worst I’ve ever seen.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOL, show us the entire reverse and the edge too! :blush:

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2017 11:42AM

    I have made some exceptions for something not offending to me. It will be something that only an idiot like me would notice, or care. Has to be a coin I really like. I know y'all will be looking at coins I post. Believe me, if you pick it apart and see something..... chances are I have evaluated it at every angle possible, or it ain't print or lines. :)

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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, not my favorite thing to see on a coin.

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2017 11:47AM

    @Insider2 said:
    Yes, it can indicate that the coin was not cleaned after the fingerprint appeared. :wink:

    Ha...that was my first thought as well. For some reason, fingerprints don't seem to bother me much either. And they are at least an indicia of originality. But since they bother so many others and since that impacts value, they do bother me at least to that extent.

    Tom

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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2017 11:48AM

    @Insider2 said:
    @epcjimi1 said: "All I see is a big chunking line from back of hair to to I / stars."

    That is not what we are writing about. Look again for a pattern in the toning.

    Dang it.

    Last I looked, I;m pretty sure I said I thought it wasn't a fingerprint. Are you kidding me? "Look at the pattern in the toning?" Good Lord.

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2017 12:34PM

    Like Byrce said, I usually look at the whole coin before making judgements on it.

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    ParlousJoeParlousJoe Posts: 451 ✭✭✭

    Yes it is a fingerprint, that's where the AT is coming from, the fingertip oils is what is causing it to tone like that. I myself try to pass on any coin that has fingerprints on them, I hate to see it on any coin. There is nothing more disturbing to me is to see pictures in an auction and the person holding a very valuable coin with their fingers all over the coin, but that just might be me that don't like to see that happen.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well,,there's textile toning all over it so maybe the fingerprint was Jesse James's

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    Well,,there's textile toning all over it so maybe the fingerprint was Jesse James's

    Just curious where the "textile" toning might be. Not t.rying to give a hard time here.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CHEEK you cheeky feller. :p

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at the THREAD COUNT even. I'd say that was in the bag for 86 years, 4 months and 2 days.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And mint superintendent Maurice F. Hopperbottom TOUCHED it while pouring it into the canvas.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know if he was the superintendent on that day though.

    B. Max Mehl could tell you more.

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look bag toned to me. You are seeing what I believe are roller marks on the cheek. That the toning source imparted some stuff on it. Looks envelope or album toning to me.

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heh

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    oldstandardoldstandard Posts: 387 ✭✭✭

    not even close to being a finger print almost looks like the reed of another coin

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do reeds have arches, loops, and sworls? :D

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    ElmhurstElmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭

    Maybe, but I don't think it is a problem.

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    FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see what could be a print (probably is) or it could be caused by a number of other things.
    I wouldn't look at that coin and automatically think print.
    Definitely not enough of a print to convict anyone.
    It looks like a lightly circulated coin that someone stuck in an album at one point.

    I don't see any textile toning either.

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A couple print lines even make me feel dirty. :)

    What is with hiding the date and reverse? Big secret I guess.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ParlousJoe said: "Yes it is a fingerprint..."

    Agree!, but the rest of this post is nonsense: "...that's where the AT is coming from, the fingertip oils is what is causing it to tone like that."

    @topstuf said: "Well, there's textile toning all over it so maybe the fingerprint was Jesse James's."

    Sorry to say that IMO, there is absolutely no toning on this coin that resembles textile toning. :)

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    StoogeStooge Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I know there are a few out here that hate fingerprints, but they really don't bother me. It actually means it has not been cleaned.

    So does a fingerprint such as this bother you??? It bothers me, and this dog was graded as an MS67FB.


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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I know there are a few out here that hate fingerprints, but they really don't bother me. It actually means it has not been cleaned.

    So does a fingerprint such as this bother you??? It bothers me, and this dog was graded as an MS67FB.

    Paul...I kinda like that puppy! :)

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stooge said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I know there are a few out here that hate fingerprints, but they really don't bother me. It actually means it has not been cleaned.

    So does a fingerprint such as this bother you??? It bothers me, and this dog was graded as an MS67FB.

    Hey some of our esteemed members say it is all about eye appeal, and no loupe. Heh heh

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is textile toning if not an impression of fabric threads in the tarnish?
    The subject coin was 66 CAC

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must say, I do not see typical textile tarnish in those pictures... perhaps in different light or at an angle it would show better....and if that is indeed a print, I could live with it.... Cheers, RickO

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's as big as I can make it. Don't those look like thread patterns?
    I'm going back to stamps.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2017 8:07AM

    Not to me. :) I'll look for an image of that characteristic. HOPEFULLY, one of the members will download a few REAL SOON. :smiley:

    Never mind. Go to Google, type in :Textile toned dollar. Some of the images are just toned coins, others show the expected pattern.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did that. Didn't know SOME were NOT as shown.
    oh heck. Whatever it is is there.

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stman said:
    Doesn't look bag toned to me. You are seeing what I believe are roller marks on the cheek. That the toning source imparted some stuff on it. Looks envelope or album toning to me.

    My earlier quote you agreed with you old codger.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    Here's as big as I can make it. Don't those look like thread patterns?
    I'm going back to stamps.

    Nothing worse than a fingerprint in the gum of a stamp. LOL.

    Too me, it is too unidirectional to be textiles. Where are the cross-threads?

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @topstuf said:
    Here's as big as I can make it. Don't those look like thread patterns?
    I'm going back to stamps.

    Nothing worse than a fingerprint in the gum of a stamp. LOL.

    Too me, it is too unidirectional to be textiles. Where are the cross-threads?

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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    Responses to this post are hilarious. Bellylaff rated. Entertaining.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Imagine what they'd be if I ordered the coin. B)

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