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Is this the ZERBY VARIETY 1921 Morgan

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zerbe, and no.
    What made you think it was?

  • I just remember reading about it a while back. I should have googled it again before posting. I'm sorry.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No real need to say you're sorry....I think quite a few of us like to help others, but........how do you think we learned what we know?

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    let's respect a noted Numismatist and edit the thread title to reflect that. his name is spelled Z-e-r-b-e.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK... so, for those of us who do not know everything... what exactly is the Zerbe variety?? Cheers, RickO

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't post to ask about a extremely scarce variety unless you checked the diagnostic markers yourself and had significant reason to believe you have said variety.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 8:44AM

    @jerseycat101 said:
    I wouldn't post to ask about a extremely scarce variety unless you checked the diagnostic markers yourself and had significant reason to believe you have said variety.

    +After you have Googled the subject first before posing the question.

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this forum would be even deader if people did some research before posting.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barndog said:
    this forum would be even deader if people did some research before posting.

    Between gtg cac grade disputes coin show reports & related crimes. & more there's plenty to talk about here...

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 9:24AM

    This forum is hardly ever dead. You want dead? Check the NGC forum!

    Actually DON'T. If even three of us decide to check it out they will double the action over there. LOL.

  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    This forum is hardly ever dead. You want dead? Check the NGC forum!

    Actually DON'T. If even three of us decide to check it out they will double the action over there. LOL.

    This one is much more user friendly!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2017 11:49AM

    @ricko said:
    OK... so, for those of us who do not know everything... what exactly is the Zerbe variety?? Cheers, RickO

    I think they mean one of a group of "Proof" 1921 Morgan Dollars that Ferron Zerbe peddled back in the day as something special. I'll admit that have I never paid much attention to them since some people think that they are no more than first strikes, and others think they have some sort of specimen status. I don't know if the major grading services recognize them or not.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    OK... so, for those of us who do not know everything... what exactly is the Zerbe variety?? Cheers, RickO

    Zerbe supposedly had an in at the mint and requested proofs to be made.
    He had intended them to be the 'new' Peace dollars, but they made the Morgans instead.

    He sold them at a nice profit [for the time]

    For more info:

    http://coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/origins-of-the-1921-zerbe-proof-morgan-silver-dollars-are-uncertain/

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @garrynot said:

    @Insider2 said:
    This forum is hardly ever dead. You want dead? Check the NGC forum!

    Actually DON'T. If even three of us decide to check it out they will double the action over there. LOL.

    This one is much more user friendly!

    How right you are!

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Additional information about Zerbe coins from a VAM perspective can be found on VAMworld at:
    http://www.vamworld.com/1921+P+Zerbe+“Proof”+Dies

    Your coin appears to be VAM 46.

    When in doubt, don't.
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "Zerbe supposedly had an in at the mint and requested proofs to be made.
    He had intended them to be the 'new' Peace dollars, but they made the Morgans instead."

    Complete bologna. Treasury Dept (and Mint) are on record as not trusting Zerbe at least as early as 1915, and his reputation was poor prior to that.

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