Pwcc usually has better cards for the grade than the BIN listings. BIN listings fall into three categories. Cards that are inferior for the grade at around the same price that nice ones sell for. Cards that are nice for the grade but overpriced. And inferior overpriced cards.
I usually skip over BIN because I almost never find one that is priced right for the condition of the card. I say almost because I did buy one card listed as BIN in the last three years.
As an occasional seller I will sometimes list cards as bin/obo with a price slightly above the ceiling of what similar cards go for at auction, and all I get is crickets.
It is the security and confidence people have in pwcc and the presentation/scans they provide. You can see the card more clearly with pwcc over most auctions. There is confidence that the card/holder are legit for the grade. While I do see the point of the OP on cards that are common in a psa 10 for example so many cards don't fit that category. I also think that pwcc has grown so large and has such a great reputation that they may have people blindly believing their cards are superior to others of the same grade. Hats off to Brent for his success is what I say
I have made many purchases from PWCC and if the card is a very nice example you certainly can expect to pay above the going rate. I have no problem paying more for a card that is a cut above others for the grade.
I have also won auctions of great looking cards at a good price. As mentioned before competition when bidding can get buyers to lose common sense because they want to win and go overboard. I have no data to support this but if you buy on Ebay enough eventually you get burned by a seller. PWCC always ships quickly and always packages the cards very nicely and I have never heard of any horror stories other than the shilling that can go on. So with the loyal following they have some buyers would just as soon pay more for a card from a reliable dealer rather than from someone with less experience.
Someone mentioned earlier that PWCC tends to sell above average graded cards and that will lead to a higher price but I think if you look at the average looking or below average looking (for the grade) they do not sell way above VCP they might be close on either side.
One last point is if you look at Greg Morris' auctions. He sells mostly raw and wow do they sell for a premium a lot of times. He is known to accurately describe the cards he sells so buyers I think will pay more for the trust factor.
A snipe bid is one where you have a third party hosting site like gavelsnipe, and you can go on the site and select a card on eBay and have them send a bid for you with 2 seconds left, 7 seconds left... essentially you can place a bid ahead of time to be done at the time you want so you don't have to keep up with the lot on eBay, don't forget, and people can't jump your bid.
I have never sniped...are you saying you can snipe w/top all bids?
No, you have to enter a bid amount for the snipe.
I think what KC means is that you eliminate the possibility of someone chip bidding you up to your high bid before the auction ending.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Sorry about that - assumed too much when posting, Tim is correct you have to enter a bid. For example on a 1975 Brett rookie PSA 8 you would enter $200 as your snipe if that is the price you selected to pay.
I have never sniped...are you saying you can snipe w/top all bids?
All my bids are snipes on e-bay. Your subject to shillers letting your bid sit out there. AH's don't let you snipe, that should tell you something.
Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83. Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks. Prefer to buy in bulk.
@AaronfromKy said:
I haven't read this entire thread so someone may have already said this but I go on eBay to BUY CARDS THAT I WANT. Not to get a thrill by winning auctions. I never even bother to follow a card that is on PWCC because as the OP has stated, You are paying much higher to the point of getting ripped off than elsewhere on eBay.
I too can go on and on about cards that sale on there much higher than others that has a good front and back scan and sellers have 100% reviews.
Does a portion of there sales go to some charity or something that I am unawares?
Thanks
I feel the Pain... believe me ..the PWCC are overpriced ... i do not know why....it does not happen with probstein and other auctions that are similar.
PWCC doesn't always get the highest prices. I won the copy though PWCC and the next copy sold for over 100% higher through Probstein. A lot of times with auctions it just depends on who is bidding.
@AaronfromKy said:
I haven't read this entire thread so someone may have already said this but I go on eBay to BUY CARDS THAT I WANT. Not to get a thrill by winning auctions. I never even bother to follow a card that is on PWCC because as the OP has stated, You are paying much higher to the point of getting ripped off than elsewhere on eBay.
I too can go on and on about cards that sale on there much higher than others that has a good front and back scan and sellers have 100% reviews.
Does a portion of there sales go to some charity or something that I am unawares?
Thanks
I understand some of the angst about PWCC based on past issues discussed here and other boards. I do disagree with the comment "you are paying much higher to the point of getting ripped off than elsewhere on eBay." Don't understand this comment at all and this is from a fellow Kentuckian
Explain how you get ripped off on a PWCC auction?
YOU decide how much you want to bid.
YOU can set a snipe for a price you want to pay.
YOU know what a card goes for and with VCP and other tools have sales history to help out today more than ever.
If you pay too much how is that the fault of PWCC or anyone other seller - you place the bids and not them. If you don't place the bid they nor anyone else can rip you off in my book.
KC
i only bid on PWCC if its like a 1/1 or 1/2 POP or something super rare. Brother, how can a card that is being sold for 1 year the (CAREW 1976 KELLOGS PSA 10 ) by two other sellers and goes unbought for 1 year. ( (-------do not know if that's an actual word - unbought)
A third carew 1976 kellogs psa card comes of the same grade and card as the others and not only is it sold but sold for more by pwcc. It does not make any sense. Its like KY said, are the benefits for charity ?
For me - tho it takes the "rush" out of bidding, it also takes the "emotion" out of it - the drive to "win" at all cost and perhaps - pay more than anticipated.
So, if your budget dictates that all you can afford to pay for something is $X - a snipe will INSURE you keep it that way.
And on PWCC, Probstein, etc....in the final analysis, it takes a buyer willing to keep up with the more "aggressive" bidding.
@Dpeck100 said:
PWCC doesn't always get the highest prices. I won the copy though PWCC and the next copy sold for over 100% higher through Probstein. A lot of times with auctions it just depends on who is bidding.
we are not talking 100 percent of the time. Of course there will be listings sometime cheaper in PWCC over Probstein and cheaper than BIN. But as a whole.....nope
Here is sample report from my sniping team
When i bid on other auctions - "Congratulations you won this auction"
When i bid on PWCC - "Congratulation you paid an arm and a leg" - Correction when i used to bid on PWCC.
lol.... allright im not bashing anyone... PWCC has cards others do not have and vice versa...
but that Pete Rose bid was crazy and started me thinking...
and if you look at the centering .. the buy it now card was better centered than the the one in the PWCC auction and for much less
For me - tho it takes the "rush" out of bidding, it also takes the "emotion" out of it - the drive to "win" at all cost and perhaps - pay more than anticipated.
So, if your budget dictates that all you can afford to pay for something is $X - a snipe will INSURE you keep it that way.
And on PWCC, Probstein, etc....in the final analysis, it takes a buyer willing to keep up with the more "aggressive" bidding.
i will try it, but i have relied on EZSNIPER for over 10 years...
Ezsniper charges you so i might switch
There are loads of examples of cards going for more in auction where if the buyer just looked around they could get it cheaper. Auctions get so many more eyeballs and then with the feature to look at the sellers other items it in many cases entices in more bids on the other items.
The only thing I do not like in regards to PWCC is the time it takes from when you send it in to the time you get paid. For example, consigning on their next auction, you probably would not get paid until Nov. 1st.
@mexpo75 said:
The only thing I do not like in regards to PWCC is the time it takes from when you send it in to the time you get paid. For example, consigning on their next auction, you probably would not get paid until Nov. 1st.
I would imagine they have some sort of hold on forwarding funds just in case of returns or damaged stuff that they may encounter? I wonder what does happen in those types of cases?
If he sells a 300 dollar card for me but it gets lost in the mail, who is out the 300?
It really isn't even the time it take to get your money after the auction. But say I want to consign to next auction, it has to be to him by Sept. 14th. The auction ends Oct. 20th. Then the time it takes to get the money. Maybe this is normal, I do not consign many cards.
To your original question, you appear to believe that this is a thoroughly efficient marketplace. Were that the case:
1) All buyers and sellers would not only have equal access to information, but also have the same will to utilize that information.
2) They each would each place the same subjective criteria evaluating the cards' qualities.
The fact is, this is far from an efficient market, and there may always be outliers who can overpay.
@rcmb3220 said:
Pwcc usually has better cards for the grade than the BIN listings. BIN listings fall into three categories. Cards that are inferior for the grade at around the same price that nice ones sell for. Cards that are nice for the grade but overpriced. And inferior overpriced cards.
what he said...more inventory of high grade stuff... 'mo better in holders than BINs...IMO
@initialD said:
That's idiotic!
Wait to see the bid retractions on that one if the match goes south on him
At first I got excited when I saw the PWCC price and I said let me go check and see if the other one is blowing up as they were very close in price yesterday. Will be interesting to see how both of these auctions play out.
@initialD said:
That's idiotic!
Wait to see the bid retractions on that one if the match goes south on him
At first I got excited when I saw the PWCC price and I said let me go check and see if the other one is blowing up as they were very close in price yesterday. Will be interesting to see how both of these auctions play out.
That is so out of whack! It's obvious that something is going on there for it to be 1200 more with 4 days left vs 7 hours? Unless the high bidder is watching the other one with a snipe and he was just feeling this one to retract his bid?
@Dpeck100 said:
There are loads of examples of cards going for more in auction where if the buyer just looked around they could get it cheaper. Auctions get so many more eyeballs and then with the feature to look at the sellers other items it in many cases entices in more bids on the other items.
@initialD said:
That's idiotic!
Wait to see the bid retractions on that one if the match goes south on him
At first I got excited when I saw the PWCC price and I said let me go check and see if the other one is blowing up as they were very close in price yesterday. Will be interesting to see how both of these auctions play out.
That is so out of whack! It's obvious that something is going on there for it to be 1200 more with 4 days left vs 7 hours? Unless the high bidder is watching the other one with a snipe and he was just feeling this one to retract his bid?
This happens all of the time...... with PWCC like someone said before...the money goes to charity or something
@initialD said:
That's idiotic!
Wait to see the bid retractions on that one if the match goes south on him
At first I got excited when I saw the PWCC price and I said let me go check and see if the other one is blowing up as they were very close in price yesterday. Will be interesting to see how both of these auctions play out.
That is so out of whack! It's obvious that something is going on there for it to be 1200 more with 4 days left vs 7 hours? Unless the high bidder is watching the other one with a snipe and he was just feeling this one to retract his bid?
Hard to say. The other item might pop as time runs out. Up to $820 now. If it closes weak a bid retraction could easily happen.
The auction isn't over but this one will make your head explode!
The former auction is being sold by a seller with a FB rating of 5, which many people will automatically avoid for a card of this value. In addition, the PWCC card fills the holder very nicely, while the other does not. Is there a size variable for this card?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Grote not that I am aware of. The cards were issued as a complete set and when I got mine it came as a nice little brick. This card is not highly condition sensitive.
I wouldn't think we would see such a large gap but it is always possible that some buyers would simply avoid a low feedback seller like you state and the PWCC one is the only other copy that is at auction and not at such stupid high BIN's.
It is said only 1,000 sets were made so not exactly plentiful supply.
@Dpeck100 said:
Grote not that I am aware of. The cards were issued as a complete set and when I got mine it came as a nice little brick. This card is not highly condition sensitive.
I wouldn't think we would see such a large gap but it is always possible that some buyers would simply avoid a low feedback seller like you state and the PWCC one is the only other copy that is at auction and not at such stupid high BIN's.
It is said only 1,000 sets were made so not exactly plentiful supply.
u wouldn't think u would see such a large gap ? I see it every week ....lmao ...
this is nothing new with PWCC like I said when i started this thread .... if u bid on a weekly basis and u compare auctions from pwcc with other auctions houses buy it now etc... pwcc pricing is constantly higher ...again ...dont know why ..i could speculate..i have an idea why ..but I won't speculate... I just stay away from these auctions ...but if u submit 300 dollars worth of shipping of cards to this house..i could see why u would be a little bias.. I buy from everyone here and all the houses including pwcc etc ...but I tend to stay away because of these reasons ..
You don't see cards sell for well over 100% higher at this price point. I get it you don't like them and I posted it so you could get a laugh but be realistic.
last week I sniped a card for 30 from them who normally sells for $10 $7 $14 but I needed fast and I also didn't think it would go that high buy I always oversnipe anyways.. (don't like loosoing snipes) and low and behold I paid over 100 percent lmao... (I promise is the last time lmao)
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
@LarkinCollector said:
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
A BGS 9.5 sold recently for $1,750. Maybe they are using that as their comp. The BGS 10 sold at one point for right at $1,500 so that is the most mark up I have ever seen on a card at 250k!
@LarkinCollector said:
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
Have to agree with dpeck here...$15 to $30 is nothing like 1K to 2K...in any case, you bid $30 on a card so the answer to your question about how PWCC gets the prices they do is a bit closer than it seems, lol..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I suffer from the condition of when I win a snipe on PWCC for a great deal, I wonder what is wrong with the card or listing that I missed!
Joe
IG: goatcollectibles23
The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
@LarkinCollector said:
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
A fresh bid I see came in. This auction is going to be very interesting to watch for sure after tomorrow night.
@LarkinCollector said:
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
A fresh bid I see came in. This auction is going to be very interesting to watch for sure after tomorrow night.
New meat That should hold a high floor, unless there's multiple retractions. The 5 feedback seller has to be wondering what they did wrong.
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Pwcc usually has better cards for the grade than the BIN listings. BIN listings fall into three categories. Cards that are inferior for the grade at around the same price that nice ones sell for. Cards that are nice for the grade but overpriced. And inferior overpriced cards.
I usually skip over BIN because I almost never find one that is priced right for the condition of the card. I say almost because I did buy one card listed as BIN in the last three years.
As an occasional seller I will sometimes list cards as bin/obo with a price slightly above the ceiling of what similar cards go for at auction, and all I get is crickets.
It is the security and confidence people have in pwcc and the presentation/scans they provide. You can see the card more clearly with pwcc over most auctions. There is confidence that the card/holder are legit for the grade. While I do see the point of the OP on cards that are common in a psa 10 for example so many cards don't fit that category. I also think that pwcc has grown so large and has such a great reputation that they may have people blindly believing their cards are superior to others of the same grade. Hats off to Brent for his success is what I say
I have made many purchases from PWCC and if the card is a very nice example you certainly can expect to pay above the going rate. I have no problem paying more for a card that is a cut above others for the grade.
I have also won auctions of great looking cards at a good price. As mentioned before competition when bidding can get buyers to lose common sense because they want to win and go overboard. I have no data to support this but if you buy on Ebay enough eventually you get burned by a seller. PWCC always ships quickly and always packages the cards very nicely and I have never heard of any horror stories other than the shilling that can go on. So with the loyal following they have some buyers would just as soon pay more for a card from a reliable dealer rather than from someone with less experience.
Someone mentioned earlier that PWCC tends to sell above average graded cards and that will lead to a higher price but I think if you look at the average looking or below average looking (for the grade) they do not sell way above VCP they might be close on either side.
One last point is if you look at Greg Morris' auctions. He sells mostly raw and wow do they sell for a premium a lot of times. He is known to accurately describe the cards he sells so buyers I think will pay more for the trust factor.
Please educate the uneducated........what is a snipe bid?
A snipe bid is one where you have a third party hosting site like gavelsnipe, and you can go on the site and select a card on eBay and have them send a bid for you with 2 seconds left, 7 seconds left... essentially you can place a bid ahead of time to be done at the time you want so you don't have to keep up with the lot on eBay, don't forget, and people can't jump your bid.
KC
Keith...
I have never sniped...are you saying you can snipe w/top all bids?
No, you have to enter a bid amount for the snipe.
I think what KC means is that you eliminate the possibility of someone chip bidding you up to your high bid before the auction ending.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Tim...
Thx for the clarification!
Sorry about that - assumed too much when posting, Tim is correct you have to enter a bid. For example on a 1975 Brett rookie PSA 8 you would enter $200 as your snipe if that is the price you selected to pay.
KC
Keith...no problem assuming too much. Thx for responding and clarifying too...
All my bids are snipes on e-bay. Your subject to shillers letting your bid sit out there. AH's don't let you snipe, that should tell you something.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
I feel the Pain... believe me ..the PWCC are overpriced ... i do not know why....it does not happen with probstein and other auctions that are similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
PWCC doesn't always get the highest prices. I won the copy though PWCC and the next copy sold for over 100% higher through Probstein. A lot of times with auctions it just depends on who is bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Wrestling-All-Stars-Series-A-Ernie-Ladd-32-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/401345455404?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Wrestling-All-Stars-Series-A-32-Ernie-Ladd-PSA-9-MINT-/372016822929?hash=item569dee3a91:g:7mEAAOSw2kZZbjsv
i only bid on PWCC if its like a 1/1 or 1/2 POP or something super rare. Brother, how can a card that is being sold for 1 year the (CAREW 1976 KELLOGS PSA 10 ) by two other sellers and goes unbought for 1 year. ( (-------do not know if that's an actual word - unbought)
A third carew 1976 kellogs psa card comes of the same grade and card as the others and not only is it sold but sold for more by pwcc. It does not make any sense. Its like KY said, are the benefits for charity ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
On sniping.
I've used a free site - GavelSnipe for years.
Not advocating just placed as an e.g.
For me - tho it takes the "rush" out of bidding, it also takes the "emotion" out of it - the drive to "win" at all cost and perhaps - pay more than anticipated.
So, if your budget dictates that all you can afford to pay for something is $X - a snipe will INSURE you keep it that way.
And on PWCC, Probstein, etc....in the final analysis, it takes a buyer willing to keep up with the more "aggressive" bidding.
we are not talking 100 percent of the time. Of course there will be listings sometime cheaper in PWCC over Probstein and cheaper than BIN. But as a whole.....nope
Here is sample report from my sniping team
When i bid on other auctions - "Congratulations you won this auction"
When i bid on PWCC - "Congratulation you paid an arm and a leg" - Correction when i used to bid on PWCC.
lol.... allright im not bashing anyone... PWCC has cards others do not have and vice versa...
but that Pete Rose bid was crazy and started me thinking...
and if you look at the centering .. the buy it now card was better centered than the the one in the PWCC auction and for much less
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
i will try it, but i have relied on EZSNIPER for over 10 years...
Ezsniper charges you so i might switch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
There are loads of examples of cards going for more in auction where if the buyer just looked around they could get it cheaper. Auctions get so many more eyeballs and then with the feature to look at the sellers other items it in many cases entices in more bids on the other items.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Wrestling-All-Stars-Ser-B-24-RAY-THE-CRIPPLER-STEVENS-PSA-8-NM-MT-/371158138976?hash=item566abfc060:g:RtwAAOSwr81UMeAs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Wrestling-All-Stars-Series-B-24-Ray-Stevens-PSA-8-NT-MT-/372016910846?hash=item569def91fe:g:V8YAAOSwA4pZbles
The only thing I do not like in regards to PWCC is the time it takes from when you send it in to the time you get paid. For example, consigning on their next auction, you probably would not get paid until Nov. 1st.
I would imagine they have some sort of hold on forwarding funds just in case of returns or damaged stuff that they may encounter? I wonder what does happen in those types of cases?
If he sells a 300 dollar card for me but it gets lost in the mail, who is out the 300?
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
It really isn't even the time it take to get your money after the auction. But say I want to consign to next auction, it has to be to him by Sept. 14th. The auction ends Oct. 20th. Then the time it takes to get the money. Maybe this is normal, I do not consign many cards.
It is a very long cycle indeed but they will do percentage advances if you ask nicely.
To your original question, you appear to believe that this is a thoroughly efficient marketplace. Were that the case:
1) All buyers and sellers would not only have equal access to information, but also have the same will to utilize that information.
2) They each would each place the same subjective criteria evaluating the cards' qualities.
The fact is, this is far from an efficient market, and there may always be outliers who can overpay.
what he said...more inventory of high grade stuff... 'mo better in holders than BINs...IMO
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-BROWNS-BOXING-FLOYD-MAYWEATHER-JR-51-ROOKIE-CARD-PSA-10-RC-G-O-A-T-TMT/222612372493?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160727114228&meid=970d70ab8b0c4d2cb8bae8d0d6a48a7e&pid=100290&rk=3&rkt=4&sd=352143797593&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Browns-Boxing-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-ROOKIE-RC-51-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/352143797746?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160727114228&meid=970d70ab8b0c4d2cb8bae8d0d6a48a7e&pid=100290&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=352143797593&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
The auction isn't over but this one will make your head explode!
That's idiotic!
Wait to see the bid retractions on that one if the match goes south on him
At first I got excited when I saw the PWCC price and I said let me go check and see if the other one is blowing up as they were very close in price yesterday. Will be interesting to see how both of these auctions play out.
That is so out of whack! It's obvious that something is going on there for it to be 1200 more with 4 days left vs 7 hours? Unless the high bidder is watching the other one with a snipe and he was just feeling this one to retract his bid?
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
yes but PWCC is like 90 percent of the time... it does not occur with other auction houses as often....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
This happens all of the time...... with PWCC like someone said before...the money goes to charity or something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
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Hard to say. The other item might pop as time runs out. Up to $820 now. If it closes weak a bid retraction could easily happen.
The former auction is being sold by a seller with a FB rating of 5, which many people will automatically avoid for a card of this value. In addition, the PWCC card fills the holder very nicely, while the other does not. Is there a size variable for this card?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
1***i ( 189 ) definitely wants the PWCC one twice as much?
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
Grote not that I am aware of. The cards were issued as a complete set and when I got mine it came as a nice little brick. This card is not highly condition sensitive.
I wouldn't think we would see such a large gap but it is always possible that some buyers would simply avoid a low feedback seller like you state and the PWCC one is the only other copy that is at auction and not at such stupid high BIN's.
It is said only 1,000 sets were made so not exactly plentiful supply.
u wouldn't think u would see such a large gap ? I see it every week ....lmao ...
this is nothing new with PWCC like I said when i started this thread .... if u bid on a weekly basis and u compare auctions from pwcc with other auctions houses buy it now etc... pwcc pricing is constantly higher ...again ...dont know why ..i could speculate..i have an idea why ..but I won't speculate... I just stay away from these auctions ...but if u submit 300 dollars worth of shipping of cards to this house..i could see why u would be a little bias.. I buy from everyone here and all the houses including pwcc etc ...but I tend to stay away because of these reasons ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
You don't see cards sell for well over 100% higher at this price point. I get it you don't like them and I posted it so you could get a laugh but be realistic.
all the time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
last week I sniped a card for 30 from them who normally sells for $10 $7 $14 but I needed fast and I also didn't think it would go that high buy I always oversnipe anyways.. (don't like loosoing snipes) and low and behold I paid over 100 percent lmao... (I promise is the last time lmao)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
$15 to $30 is one thing. $911 to $1,926 with time to go is a completely different scenario.
Pretty decent overlap of bidders up until the point the first one sold for. Beyond the $900 point, it's two bidders pushing it up, if one decides to retract the PWCC one is in the $600+ range.
its the black border and the reputation, it makes the card scream "get me"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
A BGS 9.5 sold recently for $1,750. Maybe they are using that as their comp. The BGS 10 sold at one point for right at $1,500 so that is the most mark up I have ever seen on a card at 250k!
hadn't seen you in years... Larkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
Have to agree with dpeck here...$15 to $30 is nothing like 1K to 2K...in any case, you bid $30 on a card so the answer to your question about how PWCC gets the prices they do is a bit closer than it seems, lol..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Been focusing on some other stuff for a while. I'll be around here more frequently.
I suffer from the condition of when I win a snipe on PWCC for a great deal, I wonder what is wrong with the card or listing that I missed!
IG: goatcollectibles23
The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
A fresh bid I see came in. This auction is going to be very interesting to watch for sure after tomorrow night.
New meat
That should hold a high floor, unless there's multiple retractions. The 5 feedback seller has to be wondering what they did wrong.