I figured this one at a buck or two in a batch some time ago. My scan is not that grate, but I can assure you it is as real as the original poster's coin. And since their coin has been confirmed by professionals and mine is just as good, then there is no need for any action on my part. It's your responsibility to just believe me.
Now the tough decision, whether to sell it for hundreds of thousands or toss back into my odd stuff box. Think I'll go with back to the odd stuff box. It has special meaning to me.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
@FredWeinberg said:
.....and I get emails and phone calls that
say "this error was authenticated by the Mint,
by my local coin store, by the bank, by the
(insert here)........and of course, none of them are.
Over the decades, I've found that people make
statements like this ("it's been authenticated', etc.)
because they showed it to someone/anyone, who
say's 'looks good to me' or 'looks like it could be good',
or they say it just for fun, with no one else seeing the
coin, but it's fun to say 'it's been declared genuine'.....
....even though we never know who the heck told them that.
In any case, this one isn't genuine, obviously.
Fred Weinberg has been dealing in coins for about 50 years and is as expert as there is.
He was part of the team that authenticated the last genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
He says the coin isn't genuine.
Yet the original poster states, "I sent the coin to the professionals not just to my local coin shop it's been there for two weeks I just got the call it was real", without naming who "the professionals" are.
Might I add that PCGS stands for Professional Coin Grading Service. They have graded over 36 million coins and are still going strong. My point is, PCGS IS THE PROFESSIONALS!
And, if you compare the coin in the original post to pictures of genuine 1913 Liberty nickels, the "3" doesn't match.
So, are you going to believe your own eyes and Fred Weinberg, or are you going to believe the mysterious "professionals" the original poster refers to?
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
It is not a genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
It is not an unaltered Liberty nickel.
But I see no reason to doubt that it is a genuine Liberty nickel that was struck in 1910 and has had a colorful life since then.
With value like that I don't know why you are trusting those experts, Abby. I would be high tailing it down there the retrieve your extreme rarity before they try to switch it with a fake. Also would recommend you personally deliver it to a grading service like this.
@tdiaz1979 said:
Abby, just to let you know your photo was used in 12/20/2008, in the metal detecting forum and it was never considered the 6th coin. Have a nice day!
Gradeflation affects all parts of the market. Why not authentiflation?
I cannot make up my mind if the OP is simply gaming the forum or if he/she actually believes it is authentic. Since we can all see the manipulated digit, and the leading expert in numismatic analysis says it is fake, there really is no other opinions required. If, in fact someone is telling the OP it is authentic, they are sadly mistaken or lying. Cheers, RickO
So is this the same Doebino from 2008 that posted in a metal detecting forum? This would sort of blow away the notion that it was handed down lovingly for decades and/or inherited.
If you want the real professionals.....there's only.....Leon and Mathilda.
Why do people like to perpetrate stuff like this???? This is the second go around. Thanks go to tdiaz1979 for the break in the case............and all who followed up.
The Doors song: People are Strange........comes to mind.
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
@tdiaz1979 said:
Abby, just to let you know your photo was used in 12/20/2008, in the metal detecting forum and it was never considered the 6th coin. Have a nice day!
@ArizonaRareCoins ... Great work... that clinches the 'fake' conclusion.... Though we never doubted it, this brings it full circle with the actual copied photograph. Thanks for the detective work... Cheers, RickO
Nobody said the nickel in the pic was mine. Mine was sent off, if you read my post I was just asking for INFORMATION ha how many times do I have to repeat that lol some of you are in your own little world.
Photo: 1913 Nickel (photo from years ago/fake date)
Last Post: "Nobody said it was mine" -
In over a week of posts by others, questions, replies,
etc. - never was a mention made that the photo wasn't
the coin in question.
The only good news, assuming Abby (normal) is telling
the truth just this once, is that she wasted/spent $75-$100 on
getting the coin authenticated. I wish it was a Walk-Thru.
Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
abby3000abby3000 Posts: 11 ✭
July 24, 2017 7:23AM
Nobody said the nickel in the pic was mine. Mine was sent off, if you read my post I was just asking for INFORMATION ha how many times do I have to repeat that lol some of you are in your own little world.
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The "Professionals" should treat you well. Oh, that depends which "professionals" you are alluding to. Oh.............I forgot that they called and said it was real. Please, please send us the photos of authenticity so that we amateurs can forever rest easy.
I Quit!
Pete
"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
Photo: 1913 Nickel (photo from years ago/fake date)
Last Post: "Nobody said it was mine" -
In over a week of posts by others, questions, replies,
etc. - never was a mention made that the photo wasn't
the coin in question.
The only good news, assuming Abby (normal) is telling
the truth just this once, is that she wasted/spent $75-$100 on
getting the coin authenticated. I wish it was a Walk-Thru.
Sorry, Fred, it only reaches THAT level of fun if they send it to you for authentication. Or do professional ethics then prohibit you from taking photos to educate the rest of us?
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Hehe You're not gonna get any 'Serious' offers
until you get 10 posts
Steve
Woohoo! I'm gonna be rich.
I figured this one at a buck or two in a batch some time ago. My scan is not that grate, but I can assure you it is as real as the original poster's coin. And since their coin has been confirmed by professionals and mine is just as good, then there is no need for any action on my part. It's your responsibility to just believe me.
Now the tough decision, whether to sell it for hundreds of thousands or toss back into my odd stuff box. Think I'll go with back to the odd stuff box. It has special meaning to me.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
If it's fake why would you even want to buy it, I wouldn't
He he offers for what, nothing is for sale, the coin was put on here just for information only.
picture me trolling, trolling all day!!!
Coin is not a real 1913 v nickel and OP is Trolling hard. They know its not authentic i'm sure of it.
type2,CCHunter.
some good comedy in this thread!
Fred Weinberg has been dealing in coins for about 50 years and is as expert as there is.
He was part of the team that authenticated the last genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
He says the coin isn't genuine.
Yet the original poster states, "I sent the coin to the professionals not just to my local coin shop it's been there for two weeks I just got the call it was real", without naming who "the professionals" are.
Might I add that PCGS stands for Professional Coin Grading Service. They have graded over 36 million coins and are still going strong. My point is, PCGS IS THE PROFESSIONALS!
And, if you compare the coin in the original post to pictures of genuine 1913 Liberty nickels, the "3" doesn't match.
So, are you going to believe your own eyes and Fred Weinberg, or are you going to believe the mysterious "professionals" the original poster refers to?
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Let's use the right terminology:
It is not a genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
It is not an unaltered Liberty nickel.
But I see no reason to doubt that it is a genuine Liberty nickel that was struck in 1910 and has had a colorful life since then.
With value like that I don't know why you are trusting those experts, Abby. I would be high tailing it down there the retrieve your extreme rarity before they try to switch it with a fake. Also would recommend you personally deliver it to a grading service like this.
And now there is a 7th
Might as well show the 8th one.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Abby, just to let you know your photo was used in 12/20/2008, in the metal detecting forum and it was never considered the 6th coin. Have a nice day!
Think of all the innocent electrons massacred due to this "whatever" thread.
Gradeflation affects all parts of the market. Why not authentiflation?
I cannot make up my mind if the OP is simply gaming the forum or if he/she actually believes it is authentic. Since we can all see the manipulated digit, and the leading expert in numismatic analysis says it is fake, there really is no other opinions required. If, in fact someone is telling the OP it is authentic, they are sadly mistaken or lying. Cheers, RickO
yes, some guy named peggy sold it to me on the internet. said he he was in russia and had free shipping
This is hillarious, the OP is using the picture of this coin. He just photoshopped it and increased the contrast:
Here's the thread that discusses this counterfeit:
https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=23360
Haha yep that's the same coin!!! Wonder if we will here from him again now????
Maybe his family member dug it out of the ground and they inherited that way
HAPPY COLLECTING
So is this the same Doebino from 2008 that posted in a metal detecting forum? This would sort of blow away the notion that it was handed down lovingly for decades and/or inherited.
If you want the real professionals.....there's only.....Leon and Mathilda.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+professional+movie&tbm=isch&imgil=dkPzIvdkwcqyzM%3A%3BCtwVh9F7vPBz0M%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FL%252525C3%252525A9on%253A_The_Professional&source=iu&pf=m&fir=dkPzIvdkwcqyzM%3A%2CCtwVh9F7vPBz0M%2C_&usg=__nlA8eAQ-aNbOlB7sbiHnv7Vgme4=&biw=1536&bih=733&ved=0ahUKEwjtooDRn5jVAhWFoD4KHXz1DcQQyjcIoAE&ei=ydVwWa2aF4XB-gH86regDA#imgrc=dkPzIvdkwcqyzM:
buh-bye Abby3000. Been nice not knowin' ya.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
What are the chances that her last name is Normal? Abby.....Abby Normal.
Two reasons:
1) I collect nice fakes
2) to get it out of circulation-- so no one else would be fooled by it.
BHNC #203
Why do people like to perpetrate stuff like this???? This is the second go around. Thanks go to tdiaz1979 for the break in the case............and all who followed up.
The Doors song: People are Strange........comes to mind.
Pete
Nice catch tdiaz1979!
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...now this is how you kill a troll...Nice Work!
At least this one is civil anybody rememer the last one who also claimed real 1913 and called MArk Feld something unflattering. when told not real.
Pcgs must be doing something right getting some of these posters here
@ArizonaRareCoins ... Great work... that clinches the 'fake' conclusion.... Though we never doubted it, this brings it full circle with the actual copied photograph. Thanks for the detective work... Cheers, RickO
I have this strange sense my leg is being pulled.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Abby is the real "fake" news. What is "her" next contribution?
Nobody said the nickel in the pic was mine. Mine was sent off, if you read my post I was just asking for INFORMATION ha how many times do I have to repeat that lol some of you are in your own little world.
Title: 1913 Nickel
Post: "I inherited a Nickel"
Photo: 1913 Nickel (photo from years ago/fake date)
Last Post: "Nobody said it was mine" -
In over a week of posts by others, questions, replies,
etc. - never was a mention made that the photo wasn't
the coin in question.
The only good news, assuming Abby (normal) is telling
the truth just this once, is that she wasted/spent $75-$100 on
getting the coin authenticated. I wish it was a Walk-Thru.
abby3000abby3000 Posts: 11 ✭
July 24, 2017 7:23AM
Nobody said the nickel in the pic was mine. Mine was sent off, if you read my post I was just asking for INFORMATION ha how many times do I have to repeat that lol some of you are in your own little world.
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Very lame
The "Professionals" should treat you well. Oh, that depends which "professionals" you are alluding to. Oh.............I forgot that they called and said it was real. Please, please send us the photos of authenticity so that we amateurs can forever rest easy.
I Quit!
Pete
Since I've not seen the coin (can't unsee the one posted) all I can say is good luck, Abby.
Please keep us up to date. Sure is a fun thread.
bob:)
Please Let us know when it gets back from the Professionals so you can say
Overheard last week from the Professionals:
Mathilda: How are we getting out of here now?
Léon: Leave it to me. We're checking out.
Great movie!
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You suck!
I was going to buy it from him as soon as my money from the Nigerian Prince arrived.
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Sorry, Fred, it only reaches THAT level of fun if they send it to you for authentication. Or do professional ethics then prohibit you from taking photos to educate the rest of us?
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Neutron says: "Are you sure?"
Proton says: "I'm positive!"
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
The "Hawaii Five-O" episode "The $100,000 Nickel" used a 1903 nickel as the base for their 1913 nickel.
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It appear that Abby has been, "politely requested to not return".
Now we'll NEVER get the full story on this new rarity....
Well, shoot, which id10t here asked her politely? I didn't think we did polite.
We don't serve your kind here. A tachyon walks into a bar.
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Steve
BTW...........is that a record, receiving the red badge @ 11 posts ?
Steve
Abby "hit the" Road.