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1913 Nickel
abby3000
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I inherited a Nickel with a V on the back any nfo would be appreciated 
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abby3000
Posts: 11 ✭
abby3000
Posts: 11 ✭
abby3000
Posts: 11 ✭
abby3000
Posts: 11 ✭
I inherited a Nickel with a V on the back any nfo would be appreciated
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1913 Liberty Head nickels are very valuable....But that also means they are often counterfeit. (Only 5 real ones exist, but I think they are all accounted for).
In your case, I think it's fairly obvious that the "3" in the date has been rather crudely modified from another digit. That makes it an "interesting conversation piece", but little more.
Sorry.
Cool altered date coin, I would love to have it.
Meant to say 1908
HAPPY COLLECTING
that would be fun to have laying around. just saying
"NEWS FLASH"-------"Sixth Rare Liberty Nickel Finally Surfaces !!!"
Interesting pocket conversation piece anyways...
Abby:
I 100% guarantee that it is fake.
And, no I am not making you an offer to buy it.
BHNC #203
There was no 1918 coin to alter it from. Altered from a 1910.
Yea good call haha Thursday morning brain fart
HAPPY COLLECTING
Does this mean my hoard of 5 pristine BU's aren't the real deal?
BUMMER ........ dudes.
That would make a nice conversation piece.
Is there a way to tell if this is a contemporary altered date or a modern altered date?
Look like has some light horizontal lamination cracks streaking across the obverse.
It looks like an old alteration. It's not bad, really. It's got a real nice circulated look to cover the tooling. Of course it wouldn't stand up to scrutiny from those "in the know".
Pete
@abby3000 .... Welcome aboard.... sorry you have to hear such disappointing news in your first post. Cheers, RickO
Not sure, but doesn't the Hawaii 5 0 episode on the 1913 Lib show how it's done ?
Steve
Just found out it is REAL WOW what a surprise for me too, and there was a 6th one.
Sorry guys it's not a fake!!!!! And this one is NOT for sale!
Here is a pic of the highest graded 1913 Liberty nickel.
The coin posted in the original post has a different "3" than the known genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
Therefore, the coin in the original post is not a genuine 1913 Liberty nickel.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
The OP's coin is from die pair #1. The other 5 are from die pair #2.
Abby. I'm in the market for one. If you change your mind about selling let me know
April fools in July. Now I've seen everything. lol
Rich:
Is it true that the numeral 3 and nearby die-related items appear exactly the same on the five authenticated and pedigreed 1913 Liberty Head Nickels? I never actually compared all the 3s myself. I have heard varying explanations. I do not now recollect all the discussions in 2003.
The Walton piece was referred to as a forgery in the early 1960s and then authenticated at the ANA Convention in 2003. Did the appearance of the respective numeral 3 relate to the controversy? A team of experts spent considerable time authenticating the Walton piece in 2003, and at least one member of the team was very skeptical at first because of the characteristics of the date.
Do any members of this forum remember the details of the authentication process in 2003? Does anyone have immediate access to a book published shortly afterwards, Million Dollar Nickels?
Nevertheless, it is very unlikely that a sixth genuine 1913 Liberty Nickel exists. I wonder if PCGS graders would be willing to examine purported new discoveries for free?
Olsen-Hawn 1913 Liberty Nickel Sold for $3,737,500 in January 2010
Walton 1913 one of Several Million Dollar Items in a CSNS Event
I just sent my 8 1913 Liberty Nickels in for grading. Hope you are going to do the same.
Super rarities almost never surface in accidental collections, especially in carelessly worn low end condition.
The Walton piece was declared as an altered date
by someone at Stacks, who probably hadn't seen
the others, and thought the '3' was altered because
it was hand-engraved on the die, and looked a bit
'crude' compared to a normal 1903 '3'. That's my take on it.
I was one of the authenticators that night (past mid-night),
and we matched the digits with the other coins there that night.
Also, I was the only one who thought to compare the
three raw pieces on the edge - I asked to hold all
three on the edges, then I matched up (what I call) the ballistic
lines (yes, even on a plain edge coin) on the edges,
proving that at at least those three, and probably all of them,
were struck at the same time in the same collar.
I realized that this would probably be the very last time that
not only all 5 would ever be together, but also the last time
that all but the Smithsonian piece would be raw.
By the way, even though it was exactly 15 years ago at
the ANA, I still remember the Guards for the Smithsonian.
They were SO big they made NFL Lineman look like ballerinas!
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
Thanks for the information Fred. I am not sure who has told abby3000 the coin is real... nor even if anyone has really authenticated it... highly unlikely. I hope the OP posts more information... Cheers, RickO
most interesting fred. thats a cool story
.....and I get emails and phone calls that
say "this error was authenticated by the Mint,
by my local coin store, by the bank, by the
(insert here)........and of course, none of them are.
Over the decades, I've found that people make
statements like this ("it's been authenticated', etc.)
because they showed it to someone/anyone, who
say's 'looks good to me' or 'looks like it could be good',
or they say it just for fun, with no one else seeing the
coin, but it's fun to say 'it's been declared genuine'.....
....even though we never know who the heck told them that.
In any case, this one isn't genuine, obviously.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
I think it is a genuine Liberty Nickel, which I suspect was minted in the year 1910.
I sent the coin to the professionals not just to my local coin shop it's been there for two weeks I just got the call it was real I should receive it back in two weeks. and then I will post more pics. And yes I no it's hard to believe for some, but it's confirmed. Love your comments though
Why can't you tell us the Professionals you sent the
coin to? They should be honored for confirming
the discovery.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
I don't think you understand; we are the professionals. If you send this coin to PCGS or NGC they will send it back as counterfeit.
Occasionally they do though. Like the 1853-0 NA halves of which all 3 are well circulated G-VF.
Lol Instant Millionaire, not everything is about money, this coin is sentimental to me, it's from my great grandpa from Philly Pa Again this coin is NOT for sale.
Steve
Oh they are, just be patient, there will be plenty coverage on this little coin.
There isn't anyone here who has unironically offered to buy the "coin." I'm not sure what your point is now unless to just be obnoxious.
Well so far there are 22 offers and still going, sorry
I can't even imagine why they needed 2 weeks to determine an authentic or counterfeit 1913 Lib nickel. And why 2 weeks to get it back? That thing should be sent overnight FED EX insured by the sender. That's how most 6-7 figures coins would be shipped...other than Brinks Armor. Just curious, how did you ship/insure the coin on the way out to the Professionals?
What are the odds that a Good 1913 Lib nickel took 30-50 yrs or so to finally get plucked from circulation when the fame of the 1913 nickel was very well known? Then again, a single 1894-s dime in Good condition was spent and not noticed for 30-50 yrs either.
This started out as an amusing and funny thread. We got to see what an altered date 1913 looks like. But now, human nature rears its head. Nobody likes to be told/shown that they are wrong, so they fight back with flailing words.......genuine, genuine, genuine..............Russia, Russia, Russia.
I'd like to know who these "Professionals" are. They should be prosecuted for numismatic malpractice.
Or, perhaps they said that it is a "genuine" coin that has been altered? I guess we'll know soon enough, assuming we get the follow-up.
Personally, if I had a coin like this that I believed passed the first few tiers of scrutiny (which this coin does not), then I would be on the next flight out to PCGS to hand deliver this new discovery for their final opinion.
In any case, it is a neat memento that a lot of people would love to have, being that it appears to be a vintage alteration.
Ha gotta love your skeptics.
It has to be genuine- its been posted on the internet.