I Heard PCGS Just Gave Pokeplayer101 The Boot...

lablover · June 23, 2017 9:39PM

Can Anyone Else Confirm? Wow, why?

lkeigwin · June 23, 2017 9:44PM

Thread's gone too. Thank God. Way too much drama for me.
Lance.

CoinPhysicist · June 23, 2017 10:04PM

Yeah I was surprised when I saw the thread disappear. Glad that's over.

rainbowroosie · June 23, 2017 10:09PM

Was there a reason why? Did someone violate a rule? If so, what was it?

PCGS runs the board and I am not objecting, I just don't understand what the offense was?

tradedollarnut · June 23, 2017 10:09PM

He PM'd me looking for dupes for sale and advice on buying multi hundred thousand dollar coins for a friend. Kind of ignored it at the time but that's odd in light of the last thread

lablover · June 23, 2017 10:15PM

@rainbowroosie said:
Was there a reason why? Did someone violate a rule? If so, what was it?

PCGS runs the board and I am not objecting, I just don't understand what the offense was?

Agreed Billy, It's PCGS' sand box and they own the show. I have no issue with that and understand it's their decision, guess thay have to run the business as they see fit. I just don't understand.

Right now I'm just sad, and feel great hurt for a 16 year old.... :'(

Kove · June 23, 2017 10:20PM

It was a weird thread to begin with. However, it really started going off the rails when people were talking about strangers confronting the dealer at his booth in Baltimore, and then posting photos of the people in the booth. Lots more downside than upside at that point.

Bochiman · June 23, 2017 10:26PM

PCGS had said before, and then seemed to turn a blind eye, that they considered there to be an age limit ( I forget what it was...I think it may have been 18 but I could be wrong).

So, he said he was 16. He showed proof. They could boot him just for that.
Moral of that story....follow the rules and never give in the internet trolls demanding proof for anything.

Also, he posted information about a dealer.
They could boot him for that.

They could boot him for anything, as it is their forum and their playground. I know that makes a lot of people mad....just look at all the alts that pop up from banned members who couldn't remain civil or follow the guidelines.

End of the day, he won't be here to stick up for himself and there are some that will continue to attack him (ie....see some other threads that are still here).

Also end of the day....that dealer, and his type of communication and interactions, was exposed and showed me someone I would NEVER deal with now that I see how he handled the situation and himself.

Martin · June 23, 2017 10:41PM

It apears that all of pokeplayer post in threads that are still present have been deleated also

cameonut2011 · June 23, 2017 11:23PM

@lablover said:
Can Anyone Else Confirm? Wow, why?

If you go to his profile page, it shows the user banned image.

https://forums.collectors.com/profile/Pokeplayer101

cameonut2011 · June 23, 2017 11:25PM

@lablover said:

@rainbowroosie said:
Was there a reason why? Did someone violate a rule? If so, what was it?

PCGS runs the board and I am not objecting, I just don't understand what the offense was?

Agreed Billy, It's PCGS' sand box and they own the show. I have no issue with that and understand it's their decision, guess thay have to run the business as they see fit. I just don't understand.

Right now I'm just sad, and feel great hurt for a 16 year old.... :'(

I agree with you. He was actually encouraged to come forward with information, and this all started out with a BST post. I think he went about it the wrong way and should have disclosed everything, but I still feel badly for him. Obviously, PCGS is entitled to do whatever it wishes with its forum.

TopographicOceans · June 24, 2017 1:53AM

Probably because it was hijacked by attention hos

kranky · June 24, 2017 3:52AM

I had read most of the thread, but not posted in it. I tend to agree with @Kove, there was an element of stalking the dealer which was frankly a little alarming.

CyndieChildress · June 24, 2017 4:47AM

I didn't sign on to the forum for a couple days because the drama was a bit much.!.! It was a funny thread in the beginning but went south from there :-/

BuffaloIronTail · June 24, 2017 5:09AM

This is NOT the same group of coin collectors that were hare when I joined in 2005. If you want drama, go to Facebook. If you want to flame and argue (different from discuss) go somewhere else..........ANYWHERE.

This place is for discussion of coin and coin related collecting. I like it here because I have a love for the hobby and like to be with others that share the same passion.........and also to try to educate as best my feeble mind can.

What's been happening here is symptomatic of what's been going on in Social Media in general. It has gotten plain BRUTAL!

Pokeplayer 101 got booted for a lot of the things posted (I did not read or participate in the thread).

I feel sorry for anyone who that happens to, but if I owned the sandbox, and someone threw sand in someone else's face, or doesn't play well with the others in the box - Good bye............find another sandbox.

Pete

1630Boston · June 24, 2017 6:09AM

I'm sure that our host can "see" much more of the goings on here than we see

djm · June 24, 2017 6:19AM

Did they delete his registry sets as well?

DeepCoin · June 24, 2017 6:30AM

Many lessons to be learned... the first of which is to listen to knowledgeable people and learn from the past. Sorry it got so out of hand, but way too much drama.

ricko · June 24, 2017 6:32AM

That was a strange thread.... and it did get a bit out of hand.... Cheers, RickO

ElmerFusterpuck · June 24, 2017 6:39AM

While it was interesting and entertaining, it's good that thread got the boot. It was very useful in exposing the underbelly in this forum too, lots of brave keyboard warriors, wannabe doctorate lawyers (and jurors) and general knowitall trolls.

Coinstartled · June 24, 2017 6:52AM

@tradedollarnut said:
He PM'd me looking for dupes for sale and advice on buying multi hundred thousand dollar coins for a friend. Kind of ignored it at the time but that's odd in light of the last thread

Should have offered him a roll of unsearched Stella's

Batman23 · June 24, 2017 6:55AM

I was going to finish reading that big ole thread this morning. Now it's gone. I made it about a dozen pages in and some aspects were getting out of line. Most of which were from others as he really did not post much. Why did he get the boot? For starting the thread, his age or did he start problems towards the end?

JJSingleton · June 24, 2017 6:57AM

I've been away on vacation. I guess I missed a doozy.

ScarsdaleCoin · June 24, 2017 7:23AM

Bye Felicia

cameonut2011 · June 24, 2017 7:24AM

@kranky said:
I had read most of the thread, but not posted in it. I tend to agree with @Kove, there was an element of stalking the dealer which was frankly a little alarming.

This was not from the kid though.

Eeyore84 · June 24, 2017 7:28AM

logger7 · June 24, 2017 7:28AM

Plus there are probably legal issues connected to underage kids posting here, probably the terms of service agreement stated them.

cameonut2011 · June 24, 2017 7:36AM

@Eeyore84

I don't agree with him using the words "scam" or "ripped off," but his allegations appeared to be substantially true and were not refuted by the dealer's surrogate. Unless the thread took a rapid turn after I stopped posting to it, I didn't see any violation.

johnny9434 · June 24, 2017 7:38AM

just as well the person is gone.

cameonut2011 · June 24, 2017 7:38AM

@logger7 said:
Plus there are probably legal issues connected to underage kids posting here, probably the terms of service agreement stated them.

There are several kids that post here, including some that outed themselves in that thread. PCGS didn't target any of them. I can think of multiple YNs here in the past, and I don't think any of them have ever been booted. There is something specific about this poster that irked PCGS.

BryceM · June 24, 2017 7:46AM

That thread brought out the worst in lots of folks. Ugly all around. I feel bad for the kid, but can't begin to understand how someone his age has that much $$ to throw around. That's a different world that I've ever lived in.

As a former admin of an unrelated forum, it surprised me how easy it was to become involved in a lawsuit for libel. As a result, we would shut down any thread that had the potential to harm a person's reputation or business. It sometimes resulted in the loss of useful consumer information, but that's how it was.

roadrunner · June 24, 2017 8:07AM

@Kove said:
It was a weird thread to begin with. However, it really started going off the rails when people were talking about strangers confronting the dealer at his booth in Baltimore, and then posting photos of the people in the booth. Lots more downside than upside at that point.

It wasn't strange at all. No one here brought up that idea of approaching the seller at the show for discussions. The seller's bourse buddy chimed in and suggested/urged that forum members seek them out at their Baltimore table to get the full story. Their idea...not anyone here. Give him all the credit.

The kid went over the line in that thread when he made some "unfortunate" comments about another well-respected dealer out of the blue. There's no 2nd get out of jail free card for pulling them into your show. Unfortunately, some of our members have copied that "dealer" reference and pasted it into other threads.....it still lives. I'd recommend you go and edit those away if you quoted the kid in any other surviving thread. It's easy for the mods to wipe away the records of a member. But anything from that member that gets quoted by someone else....those remain forever.

I agree with Bochiman that the thread exposed a lot of people you might not want to deal with...and the underbelly of the coin business which has always been there. It's a free world. Deal with those you want...while understanding all the risks. That thread certainly high-lighted many of the risks and attitudes out there today. If that point got across to our Instagram Collectors/Dealers, it was useful.

Wabbit2313 · June 24, 2017 8:09AM

Posting the pictures of the guys at the Baltimore show was also not a wise move.

cameonut2011 · June 24, 2017 8:09AM

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roadrunner · June 24, 2017 8:10AM

@Martin said:
It apears that all of pokeplayer post in threads that are still present have been deleated also

Unfortunately, anyone who quoted/pasted a pokeplayer post from one thread to another, those STILL REMAIN as they belong to the forum member who did the copying/pasting.

I PM'd the members who carried that negative dealer "pokey quote" into other threads. That cleans up one thread. But, there may be other ones.

TomB · June 24, 2017 8:25AM

I'm a bit surprised. However, and this is a large however, we have no idea what might have been in private messages sent to others. I write that not only out of common sense, but because all of the many PMs that were sent to me by PP101 over the year have been removed from my PM folder.

In my opinion, and it is just my opinion, there was significantly more going on than just that thread.

roadrunner · June 24, 2017 8:50AM

@Wabbit2313 said:
Posting the pictures of the guys at the Baltimore show was also not a wise move.

Maybe. At least not from a professional security standpoint once you're outside the convention center and open yourself to more risks. On the other hand, look at all coin show photo ops that get posted here after FUN, ANA, and other big shows. I doubt that everyone in those photos signs an approval to have their faces posted here...and into the internet.

The dealer(s) in question have their own photos on Facebook and probably Instagram too....where their coin dealings are linked. I would never want to link my face with the fact that I deal in coins. How each person handles that is different. I wouldn't think Julian, QDB, or Larry Stack have much of an issue with their faces being posted anywhere. It's all free advertising $$ to them.

ColonelJessup · June 24, 2017 9:02AM

alt for BNB?

At the March Balt show a dealer approached me to have me tell him about any $100K+ coins I had access to. When I asked "Copper, silver, or gold?" he appeared to hesitate before answering. My attention wavered.

corrected from previously garbled above

Hydrant · June 24, 2017 9:05AM

Whoever made the decision to remove that person from the forum deserves a big Thank You!

HalfStrike · June 24, 2017 9:10AM

Having the coins graded elsewhere probably played some part perhaps, but who knows.

KollectorKing · June 24, 2017 9:11AM

@Hydrant said:
Whoever made the decision to remove that person from the forum deserves a big Thank You!

& a raise + promotion.

Bullsitter · June 24, 2017 9:12AM

Reminded me of a.......................

skier07 · June 24, 2017 9:13AM

The deleted thread was up to 14 pages. I suffer from insomnia. Two nights ago I made it to page 4 before I fell asleep. The next thing I knew it was 7 hours later. Last night I had to take a Tylenol PM.

JBN · June 24, 2017 9:25AM

@ElmerFusterpuck said:
While it was interesting and entertaining, it's good that thread got the boot. It was very useful in exposing the underbelly in this forum too, lots of brave keyboard warriors, wannabe doctorate lawyers (and jurors) and general knowitall trolls.

Most useful to me are the threads where the central discussion is on a specific coin and/or an issue of professional ethics, and the dealers put forth their take on the situation. Such threads are useful to determine which dealers one should either never deal with or, in the case where they have a coin you desire, exercise maximum caution.

Bochiman · June 24, 2017 10:10AM

@CyndieChildress said:
I didn't sign on to the forum for a couple days because the drama was a bit much.!.! It was a funny thread in the beginning but went south from there :-/

Just so I understand........you did NOT sign onto the forum for a few days all because of the perceived drama in 1 thread that you weren't party to on either side of the transaction? So, something that had nothing to do with you was too much drama for you to even sign on and look at other threads that may interest you and just ignore that 1 thread of drama?

Wow

TomB · June 24, 2017 10:15AM

In defense of @CyndieChildress I can understand the feelings involved and even the actions taken.

There have been times when a thread or two becomes so tiring, overwrought or beaten down that I simply don't even want to see the title anymore. During these times I also find it easier not to visit the boards. After all, my time is limited, I have other things to do in my life and I give away information while receiving very little new knowledge in return, which means that my participation on these boards is geared more toward helping others than receiving compensation.

Everyone is different and over the top drama or troll-feats don't make me want to produce and submit quality material.

Manorcourtman · June 24, 2017 10:40AM

I have a feeling the drama was just getting started and I don't think the ending was going to be a happy one for the young chap.

rawteam1 · June 24, 2017 10:57AM

@Martin said:
It apears that all of pokeplayer post in threads that are still present have been deleated also

Lol, aww, maybe all his sympathizers here can have a memorial for him and send him money, maybe have the mayor and governor honor him by giving him keys to the city and state, to bad Big O not in office or he might be up for Medal of Honor... Putin said he give the kid asylum, so at least he got that goin for him...

bestday · June 24, 2017 10:58AM

End was precipated by the photos of the dealer at Baltimore along with using some not nice language towards his safety;;;;
My dealer hit the nail.. Poke was using forum members in attempt to make himself whole for his own bad decision
Not only Scammers in BST and also in forum using the goodness of members
PCGs saved us from ourselves

ElmerFusterpuck · June 24, 2017 11:23AM

@rawteam1 said:

@Martin said:
It apears that all of pokeplayer post in threads that are still present have been deleated also

Lol, aww, maybe all his sympathizers here can have a memorial for him and send him money, maybe have the mayor and governor honor him by giving him keys to the city and state, to bad Big O not in office or he might be up for Medal of Honor... Putin said he give the kid asylum, so at least he got that goin for him...

Godd***! Did someone put green bile in your Wheaties this morning??? Or maybe some putrid bitter kimshi? Did Big O come around and take your trike, toy guns or something?

Judging by your other posts in that thread and on the forums in general, it seems doubtful that you collect anything coin-related. Guess it's more fun to mat down the grass under a musty bridge and lurch/lumber out at passerby once in awhile.

epcjimi1 · June 24, 2017 11:35AM

I Heard PCGS Just Gave Pokeplayer101 The Boot...

I don't care, see ya

I Heard PCGS Just Gave Pokeplayer101 The Boot...

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