Are these true Gold Error coins? - Round Two - UPDATE with GRADES
jwitten
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I am getting another batch together to submit for grading, and wanted some opinions first.
This toned 1905-S/S $5 Liberty. Do I need to submit it as an error to get them to label it as a S/S? Will they even label it as such? 
This appears to be a strike through to me. Other's opinions?
Lastly, this coin, which I bought already in this holder. Does PCGS not label these as errors if they are submitted as such? I'm not sure if whoever submitted it did not submit it as an error, thus the body bag, or what. I would love to get it in a holder as an error with a grade.
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First one, no idea.
Second, yes looks like S/T error
Third, the TPGS won't slab peeling laminations if they feel it could dislodge from the coins surface in the holder
That's a hole.
Obvious S/S in Cherrypickers. You best send it in as a variety or they may overlook the RPM since it is not under the Mint mark and the coin is circulated "dirty gold."
1905-S/S $5 RPM FS-501
$1G Strike Through
No idea on the third.
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So do I send it in as a variety, or error? Are they the same cost? Can they be submitted on the same submission as the strike through error?
Variety attribution is $18 plus other fees
Error attribution is $60 plus other fees
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The OP and PCGS ID'ed a lamination. We probably don't see it in the photo.
Call PCGS for information on price and tier.
Just a booger. I picked it for her.
cool coins!
i had a s/s $5 coin...i forget the date, but it was 19xx. no one seems to care. in fact, many here told me it was counterfeit...but it graded pcgs 58 and cac'd.
the $1 looks like a ST to me.
Ya, I'm not sure it is worth paying the extra to get it labeled as such. If it is just a little extra for the variety, maybe. I mainly want to get it TrueViewed and hopefully straight graded... I love the toning on it! The $1 coin though I THINK would be worth getting it graded as an error if it indeed is.
Here are better pictures of the 1910
Looks like a retained lamination.
For a second, I thought rim burr,
but that's a pretty large rim burr.
That one is on the fence. It could just as easily get into a slab imo. But do you want to pay on the possibility of needing to send it in multiple times?
What is a rim burr? And the million dollar question, if I sent this in under the error service, would it get labeled and holdered this time? I would hate to pay the fee and it come back exactly the same.
I would describe it as an error (which type, I'd
have to see it in-hand); I can't promise that
PCGS won't do the same thing.....
A rim burr is a piece of metal, usually a retained shaving
from the rim, that gets folded over onto the
planchet before it's struck.
So after doing a little research it seems pcgs does not holder peeled lamination coins, for fear the piece will break off when the holder is sealed. This piece seem pretty secure, but I am not sure I want to risk the grading fees for the possibility of getting the coin back exactly like it is now. I need to decide if it is worth sending the $1 coin in by itself, or sending it in with the $2 1/2 to NGC, which it looks like WILL holder peeled laminations. I am for sure sending the 1905-S/S along with 2 other toned coins to PCGS, so was hoping to send these 2 coins in as well at the same time. I wonder if there is any way to sign a consent form saying I am willing to take my chances with it coming off in the sealing process??
Interesting coins... I think the 1905 S looks more like a die chip - JMO - I am sure the experts are correct though. Cheers, RickO
Update: I sent the first in to PCGS... no updates yet. I sent the other 2 to NGC for a few reasons. First (and mostly), PCGS will not grade and holder the lamination, for fear it will break off. Second, NGC is cheaper on errors. Just got notification today they shipped. Took OVER a month, which is pretty darn slow for NGC (but still faster than PCGS, as they were sent in the same day, and they have not shipped yet). I am thrilled with the results!
An 1853-C gold dollar with something going on the reverse. People tell that this is a planchet lamination although the depressed letters look awfully sharp to me for a lamination. I was thinking retained cud when I saw this coin for the first time while I was reviewing lots at a Heritage auction. At any rate, I think that it is interesting.
Cool coin!
Nice results on your coins. I like them both.