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How cool is this! Very cool!

W. David Perkins sent me this:

PRESS RELEASE: NGC Certifies New Bust Quarter Variety

http://blog.greysheet.com/press-release-ngc-certifies-new-bust-quarter-variety/

Congratulations to the new owner! Many thanks to David Lange, Greg Rohan, Mark Borckardt, John Sculley for their contribution!

...."NGC was selected to certify this presently unique coin after its owner, a collector in Illinois, contacted Heritage Auctions. His photos were sent to Heritage Auctions President Greg Rohan, who shared them with Senior Numismatist Mark Borckardt and Cataloger John Sculley. It was on their advice that the owner met with NGC Research Director David W. Lange at a coin show, where Lange accepted the coin for certification. It was carefully studied for authenticity, grade and variety before being certified by NGC as AG 3, B-3, Discovery Coin."

Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...

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  • 1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 464 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2017 3:02PM

    This is a very cool development for those people collecting varieties.

    There can't be just one, so now let's find some higher graded examples.

    1TwoBits

    Edited to not be unnecessarily critical.

    Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1TwoBits said:
    This is a very cool development for those people collecting varieties. Good thing coin22lover didn't find it, saves us from another annoying deleted thread.

    There can't be just one, so now let's find some higher graded examples.

    1twobits

    That seems unnecessarily critical.

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Cool discovery coin

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, big news! Coingrats to the discoverer! I'm looking forward to the appearance of a confirming second specimen, hopefully in higher grade. And even more hopefully among my group of B-1 1822s, which i hope to go to the bank and check next week.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, where are the good clear big pics of the coin??

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great discovery! Like Baley, I am also awaiting large clear pictures of the coin, especially its reverse.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • 1Bustcollector1Bustcollector Posts: 577 ✭✭✭

    Here are the pics....

    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

    Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! I expect a few more will be uncovered.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks! Incredible and fantastic discovery, unbelievable that it took 195 years to be noticed. I'm positive i do not have one of those.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • 1Bustcollector1Bustcollector Posts: 577 ✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2017 5:26PM

    You know, I've been taking pictures a very very long time and I know this might be going off the edge a bit but this 1822 kinda made me do a double take like I've seen that (obverse) before....Im gonna have to research my database and old film pics from decades ago. No promises.

    BTW, still locating bust quarters (shows, internet, and recent auctions) that were plated in the old Chapman catalogues - well known pedigrees are being passed up only to be rediscovered!

    Rory

    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

    Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...
  • goldengolden Posts: 10,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is what makes collecting great.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is very exciting. It's also incredibly unlikely! This is literally the last die combo I'd expect to produce a new variety.
    For the non-quarter collectors out there, 1822 has (had) 2 die varieties, B-1 and B-2. They share the same obverse, but the reverse of B-2 is the famous "25/50c" denomination blunder, and is worth ~10x as much. My point is that EVERYONE flips over an 1822 quarter to examine the reverse.

    Now, this new reverse with the broken arrowhead is also very famous to variety collectors, because it was the only reverse of 1823, which is the rarest business strike bust quarter date. So that specific reverse is known to everyone who collects these coins, on sight. For anyone to flip over an 1822 and not see the obvious broken arrowhead when they're already examining the denomination is very, very unlikely. It is just too famous.

    My takeaway is that this new variety has to be incredibly rare or unique. It'll be fun to see where it lands when the dust settles (if it's sold at all).

    If anyone knows the story behind this find, I'd love to hear it.
    Matt

  • CyndieChildressCyndieChildress Posts: 429 ✭✭✭

    Awesomeness.!.!

  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    Awesome sauce!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am always amazed when something new is discovered on old coins.... especially in an area so widely collected and studied. Reminds me of the 1919 DDO dime discovered about 18 months ago.... Cheers, RickO

  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow...this is exciting and surprising news. I've been on vacation for the better part of two weeks and totally missed this until I saw it on the JR online Newsletter tonight. As others have stated, it will be interesting to see how many...if any...additional examples are found. Hard to believe new varieties are still being found to this day.

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting this news! It's not every day that a new die marriage of Bust coin is discovered, and it's also very easy to attribute! I wonder if additional well-worn examples will turn up.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is what I'd like to see more of. Here we are in 2017 and have made a discovery on a die marriage of a nearly 200 year old coin. Yes, Very cool indeed B)B)

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting this @1Bustcollector! And yes, I know who you are!!!

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beware!

    WDP is like the shadow. He knows all...........

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too cool! Congrats, and what an awesome discovery! I just read about this in the latest Coin World weekly issue. I don't own an 1822 Bust quarter; but, a good friend of mine does, and I checked out his quarter...no match. Sure got the adrenaline flowing!!!

    http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/06/1822-capped-bust-quarter-die-marriage-third-known.all.html#

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