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What is going on with this large cent planchet 1840

fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 11, 2017 5:25AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This is my first attempt taking photos and posting all from my cell phone. Maybe I will eventually figure out this technology.
Took my 7 yr old nephew to a coin store today to let him pick some stuff out of the dealers junk box. At first I thought this was just a worn down scratch now I think it is a planchet defect. The line does not disrupt the stars or hair or rim. Could just have worn down but not enough wear. What do you guys think


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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my unexpert opinion it looks like a honking gynormous diebreak. i'm surprised it didn't just break in half when you picked it up, LOL So tell us more about your coin store visit with your nephew, what interested him?

  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He has always been interested in coins. My kids no interest at all. He ended up with a half dime flying eagle cent and some early Indians for his book

  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't have the feel of a die break in hand

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am thinking planchet lamination type of thing.

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with the planchet lamination defect.


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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Decent pics, and interesting Large Cent.
    It has an honest look about it and the die break is cool. B)

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  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info bigmoose. Sure enough found one on heritage happy I rescued it from the junk bin. In hand this break does not look like the ones I am used to on bust silver coins.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly an interesting anomaly..... Nice diagnosis @BigMoose .... Cheers, RickO

  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    On very late die states of N-9, the die break is so severe that that two halves of the coin are actually in slightly different planes. It's a nice R-3 variety and very sought after by Late Date Large Cent collectors, especially in late die states and in higher grades.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a die break to me.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I knew die break as soon as I saw it - that is a very nice junk box find!
    Guessing the dealer did not know what it was either.
    Glad to hear your nephew has a strong interest.
    I've given away a ton of old coins to my own kids, and nieces and nephews on both sides,
    and none of them ever had any interest.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Force is strong with your 7-year-old nephew. Take him to shops and shows more often. Looks like VF20 details on that coin, too. I'd see if the green speck on the rim comes off with a poke of a rose thorn or a dab of acetone (when he's not around).

  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Excellent find! Not sure why that coin would be in a dealer's junk box to begin with, regardless of the variety. Fishteeth has always had the midas touch when buying coins. Maybe sell the coin to an EAC collector, then use the money for your nephew to buy more coins?

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigMoose said:
    This is a Newcomb-9 variety, late die state with a bisecting obverse die break.

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