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Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

Pulled out of an old 2x2 that was in an album page that contained PVC.

I only used Acetone on this coin.

Judge and jury, here is the evidence(not so great cell phone images).


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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess it would most likely come back either Questionable Toning or cleaned/altered.
    I will say that it is interesting and I like the way that coin looks.

  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Environmental Damage would be my call if I were grading it.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One might ask, "why bother to do the AT?" given the value of the item. I tend to think that this is natural given that there is some corrosion in the mix. I've seen some old cents that were lost when they were new and red in places like behind a car seat, that come out looking like this when they are re-discovered.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7, 2017 9:47AM

    Since the coin comes with a plausible "story", then it's probably NT. Now whether it's MA is a different question...

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  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well so far I have sent in several cents with this type of toning from the same type of source. All have straight graded. So I'm just posting this as an example of great color on copper with no chemical enhancements. Ive actually applied MS70 to a few of these and they look worse with it. Once I remove the MS70 with Acetone it looks the same as it did before, brilliant colors.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Blue" toning caused by the reaction of a copper surface with acetone on some coins has become very fashionable!
    Look up the thread by Rick Snow, an Indian cent specialist.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    With talents like that you should consider a career selling proof Indian cents :#

  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
    Why is the qtip blue?

    Green from the PVC it's taking off the coins surfaces.> @10000lakes said:

    With talents like that you should consider a career selling proof Indian cents :#

    I commented on the thread a few times with my thoughts on the matter. To me the coins surfaces are not visible under a filmy layer and once removed the toning is visible. Im going to try denatured alcohol at some point to see if that removes the PCV and reveals toning or not. I have quite a few examples to work through and will share what I find over time.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
    Why is the qtip blue?

    It is green. That is the residue that developed on the copper surface.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A "BIE" (Die Chip) cent to boot.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just remove the rest of the 'crud' and send it in..... it should grade..... I do agree with the alcohol and water rinse though.... just to remove and remaining residues. Cheers, RickO

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Your story would lead one to believe it is NT, but when you submit a coin to our hosts you don't get to send a story with it.

    I assume you haven't owned the coin for 60 years so you don't know the whole story.

    I've seen similar looks in PCGS holders, so I think it would grade.

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