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What do you think is going on with the reverse on this piece?

mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭

It doesn't look like odd toning, per se...especially by looking at the star around 3:30pm. Any thoughts?

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears to be a toning pattern where one coin sat on top of another of the same. The toning gave it that ghost look, and I think it is cool. I may also be way off base.

    bob :);)

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think it could have been in a leather wallet for many years.
    And the leather picked up the design just enough to transfer

    the design after the coin shifted...crazy guess.

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    mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2017 11:56AM

    How do we account for the ghost star just below the star after the " in fight...that ghost star has texture to it and is slightly raised :astonished:

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mercurydimeguy said:
    How do we account for the ghost star just below the star after the " in fight...that ghost star has texture to it and is slightly raised :astonished:

    Since you are supplying 3D info not in the 2D photo, this is helpful!
    Sounds like a double strike.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck twice but shifted in the collar between strikes.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Struck twice but shifted in the collar between strikes.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2017 2:41PM

    Never mind,. Self-edited comment about the state of numismatic education in this country. :blush:

    Hey guys. Look at the OP photo again. Pick any raised part of the design. Note how the identical design is close to it yet is flat and twisted out of alignment? This is a characteristic of a piece that was struck once and then shifted slightly and was struck again. The second strike flattened the first one yet it still can be seen where it once was raised on the medal/token.

    Extremely neat piece!!

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    Geckster109Geckster109 Posts: 231 ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2017 3:00PM

    The die shifted, not the medal.....correct?

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    UnclePennyBagsUnclePennyBags Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    Very cool piece..... I think I just hypnotized myself following the star lines up close for a few seconds... At least seeing funny anyway

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the reverse die shifted. Now why am I saying that? Clue: What would the piece look like if the medal turned in the press before the second strike and the dies did not move? :wink:

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a super interesting medal.... would love to examine that in hand... Cheers, RickO

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