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Rare error 1962 D 1C
Arvin1977
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Hello everyone. I am a new coin enthusiast and have a few finds I would to share and get feedback on. I'll start with this 1962 D 1C error.
Yes, that is the Denver mint mark, at an impossible angle, on Lincoln's nose.
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No it's not
That is just damage. If you look closely at circulated coins - sooner or later you will "see" each letter of the alphabet.
Keep looking and Good Luck!
what happened to Abe? looks like leprosy. and the mark on his nose doesn't look like the MM at all from my view.
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It "appears" to be a "D", but it's not.
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I'm sorry, but that is called Post Mint Damage and not an error.
Just for kicks and giggles, I pulled out the calipers (I'm a machinist). From top to bottom, I measured both the mint mark and what's on his nose. In dealing with very low tolerances, I can tell you that they are both the same height. And very very near the same width.
and although it's not needed -
It's damaged at his nose - PMD
(post-minting damage)
Can anyone posture a theory on how the damage to his face and what's imprinted in his nose occurred?
Or why, around the perimeter of his face there exists not one scratch (with that much damage) on the back drop?
Just questions that abound.....
Use your imagination. It's already quite vivid.
BTW, are you Ken Cross in the Facebook group, who has a wild error discovery every 5 minutes ?
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Excuse me?
Damage happens in many ways, most by accident or just plain circulation
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First off - Welcome aboard!
There are literally billions of ways that the damage could have occurred. Maybe it was on the floor of a subway and landed on a metal grate, maybe a bored teenager picked at it with a fork at lunch, maybe that same teenager shot at it with a pellet gun, maybe a construction contractor used it to make the head of a nail larger and struck it with a hammer. Get the idea?
When searching for an error it's going to be far more productive to try to ask yourself how the "error" could have occurred in the minting process, and start under the assumption that it's post mint damage.
FredWeinberg is THE primary authority on error coins, and we're privileged to get his participation here, his is the final word on most occasions.
@Arvin1977 said: "No, my name is Arvin Hampton. And if the administration of this forum allow little disrespectful assholes like you, I'll take my questions somewhere else. "
Hey Ken, people here are trying to help you out. I don't think your "backside" reference belongs here. You could learn a lot from the member who injected some humor into this typical, dull, boring, question that long-time members have answered thousands of times.
One other thing I've learned here that you should take to heart. While most members are very helpful and wish to educate you about coins, others, such as myself, don't care whether you stay around to learn from them or not!
PS Perhaps the high parts of the coin's design and the rim protected the field (the lower, flat part of the coin) from becoming damaged. Think about it.
Didn't you mean to say: It appears to be a D , but it's snot?
You came here to learn and ask questions. Great and welcome. However, since you are new to the "game" please understand that most on here have had this question asked before. And, have responded to that same question hundreds of times. So, although it is exciting for you (we do understand the thrill of the hunt) it is rather mundane to most of us. Mr. Weinberg is an expert on mint errors. If he says it is PMD (post mint, damage) then that is what it is. You can take his word, and many others on this forum, to the bank.
Now, dropped letters are not rare if that is what you were thinking. But it is not the case here. Sorry. A dropped letter happens when the mintmark is filled with grease or gunk and then gets spit out during the process and the little D that got spit out is struck again with it ending up looking similar to yours but obviously not in the position it was intended. I can see how you would think that.
Keep searching, keep asking and let your skin get a little thicker, please. We mean no harm.
bob
Look at all the other damage in the
same area - cheek, chin, etc.
His nose was either the last area, or
the first area, damaged by something
that scraped across the coin.
Another machinist huh. Is it just me or is there an unusually high propensity of machinists that become coin collectors.
BTW @Arvin1977 this is clearly damage but just so you know, Fred Weinberg is one of the foremost experts in the country on error coins.
Because of the profanity I am not sure if you will be around long enough to read any of these comments, but in any case the coin is clearly damaged. A safe rule is to assume that a weird looking coin is NOT an error unless and until proven otherwise.
When I was a kid I did all sorts of crazy things to coins – hammered them, squeezed them in a vice, drilled holes in them, etc. Along the way I learned a lot about what post-mint damage looks like. I highly recommend it as a learning tool.
In the case of your coin, it was either struck by something or was pushed against something with an uneven surface. For example, it may have been laying on a street face down and a car ran over it – no damage to the reverse from the rubber tire but the obverse was pressed against a hard and rough surface. That is just one possibility but there are many.
Post mint damage.
Let's not kid ourselves. That may well be post mint damage or it might likely be an error coin. Who decides?
Spoiler alert! (pcgs)
That type of "mintmark D" with the the broad looking serifs was never applied to Cents.
Definitely damage.
You can go ATS and see what they say,,,,,and do some research about what ATS means.......I ain't telling you.
Pete
PMD
1946-S PCGS MS64 BOOKER T.WASHINGTON 50 CENT
ATS = Across the Street (PCI)
PMD = Pickles Merinaded Dillweed.
Many people, new to coin collecting, see damage or altered surface coins as possible mint errors. It is disappointing when they are told otherwise. It is all a part of the learning process, which, many of us probably experienced as we began. I have had people get very angry when I told them (gently) that their coin was not a valuable find/specimen/rarity etc.. Cheers, RickO
No error here.
Thanks everyone. Apologies for being thin skinned lately. I'll work on my errors.
post mint damage. jmo
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I'm reaching......
Busted piece of an MM die becoming wedged on strike?
New to this. Be kind.
@BuffaloIronTail You say that there ARE MM dies in the mint with the Serif D?
Why does it stick out as a different color?
Collector, occasional seller
PMD
1946-S PCGS MS64 BOOKER T.WASHINGTON 50 CENT
It stands out a different color because the light is hitting the raised impression. To the naked eye, without the light, it blends in with the damaged area of his face and nose.
I apologize for being so rude, Arvin. There were many Denver mintmarks used by the Mint, some of them having serifs. The 1916-D Mercury Dime comes to mind. Look at some older coins, you will see them. 1914-D Lincoln Cent is another one.
It is still damage on your coin, not a mintmark. The whole area is damaged from something.
Pete
It was the second game of a double header against the Dodgers when Abe did a head long dive for third and came up with a face full of cleats and to add insult to injury, the letter 'D' now dangles from the end of Abe's nose. Or was it against the Diamondbacks? Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's PMD.
Keep searching.
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