Can I get an EAC opinion on this 1798 S-180?

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• Meltdown Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 10:19AM

  Not sure I can help with the EAC but it looks wholesome original to me. Love the reverse cud on it!

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• rays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 11:10AM edited May 23, 2017 11:15AM

  This PCGS GD4 sold in 2013 for $705 :

  and Tom Reynolds' PCGS F-15 sold for $2585 last year.

  Your coin is smooth and color seems OK I would think it is VG08-10 sharpness by EAC standards. What grade do assign to the coin?

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• Walkerguy21D Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 11:22AM

  Nice coin, and good work by rays.
  Since I don't have my books with me, I'm assuming this must be at least an R5 to be
  commanding those prices. And I wouldn't be surprised to see a commercial slab grade of F15
  on the OP's coin,

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• Coin Finder Posts: 7,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 11:56AM

  I like it. Affordable grade, I think they are are a R5...

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• Walkerguy21D Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 2:23PM

  Yep, high R5, with most coins in the condition census in the Fine (EAC) range.

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• opportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 2:27PM

  Nice coin. If there are no surprises, I agree with the above, that it should grade as a Fine. The Sheldon 180 is an R5+ but is really tough to find without damage. You may find it interesting that a PCGS XF40 sold for north of $22,000 relatively recently. Yours, of course, isn't worth that much, but is probably a mid-4 figure coin.

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• BillJones Posts: 34,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 2:34PM

  @Walkerguy21D said:
  Yep, high R5, with most coins in the condition census in the Fine (EAC) range.

  I bet you some of the EAC people will declare this to be a VG-7 or 8 because of the numerous marks and weakness on the bottom right of the reverse. There is also sometimes of bit of the "owned by the right person" connected with the grading too, if you follow my drift. A "Joe Blow collector's coin" really has to be a no questions asked improvement over the pieces in the "official condition census" to make any real headway in the "finest known" discussion.

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• Walkerguy21D Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 4:01PM

  Yes, I agree with the EAC grade rays gave it, no problem with that....I also know some EAC graders are tougher than others.
  My point was that this coin would likely fall just short of the condition census, but it would still be quite valuable, judging by the price paid for the PCGS F15 that rays mentioned.

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• msch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

  May 23, 2017 4:57PM

  Some EAC graders can be brutal. Here's the auction description for Tom Reynolds' PCGS F-15...

  Mostly glossy dark chocolate brown and olive with lighter steel brown toning on the highpoints. The surfaces are decent and appear perfectly smooth to the unaided eye, but a glass reveals extremely fine roughness in the fields and protected areas on both sides. The notable marks are a tiny pinprick under the left edge of the B in LIBERTY, a thin diagonal nick near the hair left of the eyebrow, and a tiny speck of reddish verdigris on the left foot of the I in AMERICA. None of these defects is visible without the aid of a good glass and the eye appeal is nice. LDS, Breen state V, with strong rim cud breaks at UN and TATE.

  Sounds like a pretty nice coin from the description (I couldn't find a picture of it)...Noyes' grade...VG10 net G6.

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• ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 24, 2017 7:22AM

  That is a nice coin.... I will leave the grading to the EAC people... Cheers, RickO

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