Here's an angry customer!!
Manorcourtman
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eBay of course. Guess the grade I guess.......ebay.com/itm/1917-s-buffalo-nickel-2-feather-fs-401-pcgs-graded-WHAT-A-JOKE-THEY-ARE-/292123426643?hash=item4403e9bf53:g:LY8AAOSwZKBZH3wL
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Are you going to "Make an offer?"
Poor old fishingbrick sounds really disgruntled lol...
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I'm guessing "Lower than he hoped................."
People like that sound unstable and this type of rant/behavior would make me pass unless the coin was a super bargain or irreplaceable.
He says 'Guess the Grade' - Uh..... MS70? Yuk Yuk
Best, SH
by a lot
luster - after searching many many thousands of OBW coins, freshly wrapped and delivered, I can say that I've seen many many thousands of MS60 (not choice A, not mid B, but Z- level 60) coins with full luster.
luster wouldn't bring them out of that purgatory.
Buff. nickels can be tough to grade. The guy should stick with his series instead of getting political or re-submit or let cac have a look see.
77 views per hour, I haven't seen that many before on a coin!
Since this post has over 200 views in a little over two hours, I'll bet the majority of those 77 per hour originated here...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Buy the coin not the holder.
Are slab pics no longer required?
Perhaps only if a grade is claimed? There is no grade mentioned.
Rants are fun.
Some complain about the grades they get, others complain about how long it takes to get their grades.
EAC 6024
Sounds like just the kind of pleasant person I be pounding down the door to buy from. (Memo to mods: kindly add a little facepalm emoji if possible.)
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fishinbrick apparently doesn't know when to appreciate a gift horse. The whiner probably has nothing into the coin for cost basis, but anything other than a huge windfall grade/price just isn't good enough. karma is a beeyotch. This is the kinda guy that grades his coins to a price, rather than pricing his coins to THE grade.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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His grade - MS66
Mint - MS63
I don't know what grade he expected, but the best he could ever get was MS-63 from that coin. It has lots of small marks and the body of the buffalo looks dull, not lustrous. I would have expected an MS-62 or even 61.
Even if a flat strike is what you might expect from a given variety that is made from worn or refurbished dies, the fact that it has a flat strike limits that grade. You can't get an MS-66 or better from a coin that was "struck as" an MS-63 or 64.
I remember when I broke into a roll of 1962-D Mint State half dollars. Some the coins had virtually no marks, but they could grade no better than MS-63, because they were so poorly made with so-so luster and weakly struck devices. That experience taught me why those coins bring premiums in MS-65. The Denver Mint didn't make very many MS-65 coins that year.
C'mon, let's be honest with ourselves.
Haven't we at least once felt the same way as this poor guy?
I know I have.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
a few of us were saying the same thing
Looks like an MS62...hit on the rim sets this at a max 63 in my mind. hairlines across both obverse and reverse, and cabinet friction to boot. AU58 coins have booming luster at times/also, so that's not an MS requirement. Net-net I think in a 4 holder this would be maxed out and overgraded...typical example of "ownership adds a point or two"
His expectations were way too high. I totally agree with Coindeuce. We all have wild expectations........but those must be balanced with "reasonable" expectations.
Live and learn..........and STUDY.
Pete
What a dumb way to list a coin. He has it priced in between 64 and 65, and I can promise you this. It is not in a 65 holder!
I like it as a 58.
It does seem inconsistent that some coins seem to be graded with consideration to how they were struck and some are graded in only absolute terms. I don't know why trade dollars with chop marks get straight grades. Just some of the mysteries of coin grading that make me ponder.
Has anyone made him an offer and bring him down a notch...or six?
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I think you are right. Even through the blurry images, hip on the bison looks to be a bit flat (of course it's impossible to tell from the images). I bet it's in a 62 holder and he was sure it was a 64 or 65.
People forget when you submit a coin you pay for an opinion ... not an absolute truth. He didn't like PCGS's opinion. If PCGS "overgraded" the coin, I don't think he would be complaining how "wrong" they were.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
And some just complain for the sake of complaining. No particular reason, just wah wah wah.
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
It is gone.... was it pulled or auction closed? Sounds like it was pulled from the above inputs.... Cheers, RickO
He relisted it, this time with the following description: "I'd like to thank all of you great ebay members for viewing my listing over 500 times in less than 24 hr. And the many encouraging comments that you shared . One member actually guessed right. And wouldn't you know it a "Grader". I believe I left to many hints. The majority of members said 64 ."
ebay.com/itm/1917-S-Buffalo-Nickel-BU-UNC-Two-Feathers-Rare-Variety-Coin-RAW-/292124604368?hash=item4403fbb7d0:g:wE8AAOSwR29ZINnP
So what was the grade?
I think he wants someone to buy it to find out.
At that price I would have to be really good at grading the series and that would have to be a really hard to find variety.
The only things that really made me angry were when I got a body bag that I did not deserve one. The proof that I had a point was proven when that same coin got a grade after I owned it.
I own several ms 64 coins and have examined several ms 62 coins most are of heavily marked or luster impaired or a combination of both .