Opened with OGP 1958 proof sets
Newman1908
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Wanted you guys opinion on buying these opened proof sets . I just bought 10 1958 sets .I was hoping to get atleast a couple quarters and dimes with semi cameo or partial cameo . Should I only buy these in person or should I keep trying my luck? Most of the coins look great not to many black spots except on the halves .
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It is always best to buy in person if possible. Nothing looks as it does in hand.
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Buy in person or from someone you trust.
Good luck - I view unopened proof sets like scratch off lottery tickets. Most of the time you lose, but once in a while you score.
Don't forget to look for varieties when buying sets, unfortunately, there isn't much to look for for 1958.
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Welcome aboard!
Specifically for 1958 which is a more difficult year for cameos, you're taking a crap shoot hoping to find cameos in a random set of 10 previously opened proof sets. It's going to be a mighty expensive undertaking to put together a cameo set if you think you have to buy the sets to view them in order to check for cameos.
I maybe buy one of every 20 or 25 sets I look at, and after opening the sets, there is maybe a 50/50 chance that they'd be of a high enough grade to warrant grading. I am confident I'm not exaggerating to say I've looked through 10,000 proof sets putting my set of 1950-70 cameo proofs together and I'm probably still 10 coins short of having a CAM/DCAM for every date and denomination.
That being said, you can tell what you're getting from pictures once you know what to look for. Several of my top-10 scores have been purchased from Ebay.
Very sage advice from all of those who have replied to this thread.
If you are interested in seeing photos of some amazing Cameo proof and SMS coins, look at the registry sets for these coins of both Cameonut and Modcrewman. The coins they have will knock your socks off. You can also read some books on this area of US Coinage to learn about this niche area. There are also many threads posted to these forums that discuss and display these coins.
I have cherry picked some Cameo coins over the years in OGP and in aftermarket holders. A fun way to play in the hobby.
The halves are the important coin. Send them back if you can.
Proof coins from this era with a strong cameo on both sides are very scarce for many dates and denominations. I have seen a number of one sided cameo coins. Those pieces unfortunately don't cut it.
Since I am more interested in completing a set of Proof coins from 1936 to date with or without cameos, I am devoting my funds to that. I've got the 1942 to date sets done, but before that I've got a lot of coins to find.
@Newman1908....Welcome aboard..... as stated above, those sets are a real crap shoot.... and if 'unopened' likely not a return privilege... also, all to often, they have been opened and resealed. Best of luck... Cheers, RickO
I would buy sight seen only.
Unfortunately if coins in original packing it is really difficult to determine what if any pvc damage from this material. When I buy these coins are immediately cut out and either sent off for grading or put in non pvc 2x2 flip with other raw material I may display at shows, priced accordingly with NN coin market or CW for sale at retail.
The supposedly unopened sets are something I consider a ripoff / racket and surprised people so gullible as to believe they have been unopened after all this time.
Thank you guys so much for your knowledge. Lesson learned. I will keep them though as I want to put together some in the set holders .
Make sure you know the color of the original envelopes. Many of the new-make replacement envelopes are much more orange color than the original yellows
99% of the 'flat pack' proof sets have been picked through. The only way is to score a 'officially' sealed box from the US Mint.
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I have to disagree with you. Though most of the flat pack proof sets have been looked at and picked through, not all of them have. There are still OGP sets that come onto the market now and then. Many times the sets are acquired by dealers who view them as widgets and do not inspect them. Thus on occasion sets with Cameos, Varieties and attractively toned coins do show up for sale to collectors.
I found and bought 4 of these OGP flat pack sets (opened) last week at a show. They contained multiple Cameos.
Further, in addition to proof sets in OGP there are large numbers of proof sets and singles that are stored in aftermarket holders. Many of these aftermarket sets and singles also are viewed as widgets and are overlooked. I have found many Cameos, varieties and attractively toned coins in these sets and singles over the years. You can also find these coins in slabs, many not noting the designation or variety on the holder.
It is not easy to find these types of coins in the wild, but they are out there and available for purchase, usually at modest prices. One just has to devote the time and effort to look for and find them.
Also note that back in the day the designation was not always put on the label
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