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Business day 40 on a U.S. coin Economy submission. . .

coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

With the posted estimate of turnaround time static for the last 10 or so days at 28 business days.

"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2017 10:36AM

    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My suggestion: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2017 10:40AM

    @BustHalfBrian said:
    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My solution: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Stating an obvious fact doesn't represent a complaint, except by your interpretation.
    For coins valued under $300, it isn't worth the basic expense of more than 10% of the value of each coin, especially if they are destined for retail sale.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:
    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My solution: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Stating an obvious fact doesn't represent a complaint, except by your interpretation.
    For coins valued under $300, it isn't worth the basic expense of more than 10% of the value of each coin, especially if they are destined for retail sale.

    I didn't mean to offend you. I am also impatient. That is why even if a coin is worth less than $300 I will sometimes bump it up to "Regular". I suggest you do the same if you don't like waiting.

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭

    I think it is more of a situation where we are relying on PCGS to deliver on the information provided on the website. Today marks the 28th business day of a submission I gave them in Florida at FUN in March. I am also using the day they entered in my submission, which is a week after I gave them the coins physically. Not complaining, just observing the delivery process.

    I am anticipating my results, but not crazed. Interestingly, I will be selling the coins submitted, but when I bought the roll I knew it would be a couple of months before they were graded.

    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Difficile est patientia :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tempus est pecunia.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agreed, @coindeuce , time IS money :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are plenty in the same boat that you are in...some of us have made it a habit of pronouncing our disgust through this forum, I am guilty as well. There are other things that you could do;

    I could wash my car in the rain
    Change my new guitar strings
    Mow the yard just the same as I did yesterday
    Check the air in my tires
    Straighten my stereo wires
    Count the stars in the sky or just get on with my life

    http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/terriclark/betterthingstodo.html

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just got back a submission on Saturday that they received on March 15th. It was economy secure plus and 5 coins.

    bob:)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    day 34 for me :|

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustHalfBrian said:

    @coindeuce said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:
    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My solution: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Stating an obvious fact doesn't represent a complaint, except by your interpretation.
    For coins valued under $300, it isn't worth the basic expense of more than 10% of the value of each coin, especially if they are destined for retail sale.

    I didn't mean to offend you. I am also impatient. That is why even if a coin is worth less than $300 I will sometimes bump it up to "Regular". I suggest you do the same if you don't like waiting.

    Don't always count on faster times. My Regular submission just finalized yesterday on its 61st business day.

  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:

    @coindeuce said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:
    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My solution: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Stating an obvious fact doesn't represent a complaint, except by your interpretation.
    For coins valued under $300, it isn't worth the basic expense of more than 10% of the value of each coin, especially if they are destined for retail sale.

    I didn't mean to offend you. I am also impatient. That is why even if a coin is worth less than $300 I will sometimes bump it up to "Regular". I suggest you do the same if you don't like waiting.

    Don't always count on faster times. My Regular submission just finalized yesterday on its 61st business day.

    Now that's worthy of an "ouch!". Were they world coins, error coins, or anything obscure/requiring a specialist? If not then that is worth whining about.

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2017 4:42AM

    "Counting flowers on the wall, that don't bother me at all.....smokin' cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo..... Well don't tell me - I go nothin' to do" :D:D:D Cheers, RickO

  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭

    Grading is a unique skill set.

    PCGS drives most of the industry.

    I don't submit often.

    If I have resale in my mind, I factor 90 days from buying, receiving coin, shipping to PCGS, grading process, shipping return, being resold, collecting money, and shipping coin to new owner.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your first mistake was to rely on the turn around estimates. That number is as arbitrary as any you'll ever see.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustHalfBrian said:

    @robec said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:

    @coindeuce said:

    @BustHalfBrian said:
    You say that like it's a long time; 40 business days is average for me on Econ subs, but I'm not complaining. I pay for the cheapest service knowing the turn-around time is lengthy.

    My solution: don't do Economy submissions. Instead do Regular or Express, especially if you're impatient (which it sounds like you are).

    Stating an obvious fact doesn't represent a complaint, except by your interpretation.
    For coins valued under $300, it isn't worth the basic expense of more than 10% of the value of each coin, especially if they are destined for retail sale.

    I didn't mean to offend you. I am also impatient. That is why even if a coin is worth less than $300 I will sometimes bump it up to "Regular". I suggest you do the same if you don't like waiting.

    Don't always count on faster times. My Regular submission just finalized yesterday on its 61st business day.

    Now that's worthy of an "ouch!". Were they world coins, error coins, or anything obscure/requiring a specialist? If not then that is worth whining about.

    It was an 11 coin submission with 5 Lincoln's, a Roosevelt, a Mercury, a Seated dollar, a Seated Quarter, an IHC and one large cent.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a submission on the shared order page today with a received date of 12/7. Due to the value of the coins it also appears to be a regular submission.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeepCoin said: "Today marks the 28th business day of a submission I gave them in Florida at FUN in March. I am also using the day they entered in my submission, which is a week after I gave them the coins physically. Not complaining, just observing the delivery process."

    You get what you pay for. PCGS and NGC have long turnaround times because their slabs are worth more than ANACS or ICG which have much shorter turnaround, prices, etc. Stick with PCGS and be patient.

  • TequilaDaveTequilaDave Posts: 271 ✭✭✭

    You guys are killing me. My tracking numbers show my submission was signed in by PCGS yesterday and I keep pinging the site to see if they've been logged in yet and no luck. Now I read this and I'm thinking my 15 day turnaround is out the window....

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 60 day regular tier number is excessive. Even if it were Economy I'd not be happy but would say oh well, you get what you pay for... but that's pretty ridiculous for regular tier. I think I'd have to ask for some kind of adjustment.


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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭

    Currently waiting on my "Regular" (15 day turnaround) Reconsideration submission at day 20.

    Sometimes PCGS is super quick while at other times they are syrupy slow.
    I expect that a bunch of SAE's have been submitted since 4/4 for those Anniversary and First Strike™ labels along with First Strike™ Proof Sets and First Strike™ whatevers.

    Oh yeah, lets not forget about the 15,000 (or more) SAE's submitted for that Trump/Pence Label.

    "The Waiting is the Hardest Part" - Tom Petty

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my two coin Regular submission was picked up at the PO on 4/7 at 8:30AM and entered into the system four days later, around noon on 4/11. that puts me at 18 days right now --- all of my orders seem to show as completed on Tuesdays, so I figure it'll be ready in a couple days.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2017 4:34AM

    I feel your pain - I have an economy submission I sent in over a month ago.

    I will be sending another one when get this one back. You just have to wait out.

    I do monitor progress of order from my phone.

    Investor
  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Day 38:

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5 Lincolns for reconsideration - logged in 2/11/17. Today would be business Day # 57.........

    WS

    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm very appreciative that PCGS takes their time and doesn't try to rush...my coins are almost 200 years old...another month doesn't matter to me!!!

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Had 2 submissions in currently. My 3/22 economy submission posted yesterday and my 4/4 submission should pop in about 2 calendar weeks.

    These guys waiting 60 days for regular submissions should be raising hell unless the coins need research or special treatment. That's just not right.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was showing 28 days on their statistics page, if you ask for imaging or variety it could be a lot longer. I have a couple invoices that should be done soon but if they are a lot slower, I'm not sure. Check out the shared orders page, look for turn arounds for likely finish dates.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2017 3:35PM

    (Business) day 34 on an economy crossover for me... I'm sure I'll be waiting for a while given the backlog from the February crossover special.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 economy orders from 3/22 posted for me. 29 days.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeepCoin said:
    Today marks the 28th business day of a submission I gave them in Florida at FUN in March.

    FUN was in early January. Are you sure you're not waiting a lot longer?
    Lance.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WaterSport said:
    5 Lincolns for reconsideration - logged in 2/11/17. Today would be business Day # 57.........

    WS

    My 11 coin reconsideration finally finished on the 62nd day. Only 5 days to go. :)

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bob, You made my day since PCGS did not! LOL, Thanks

    WS

    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    I recently noticed on my invoice that PCGS listed the received date and graded date on my Secure express order.
    received 04/04/17
    graded 04/07/17
    shipped 04/19/17

    So it spent 12 days floating around after grading, maybe the finalizer step happens on a later date?
    Or the Trueviews process occurs after grading?

    Anyone else ever notice a large gap of days between grading and shipment?

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finalized Monday 5/1. 45 business days.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey, but you were being so "economical."

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A friend's invoice that was received on 3/29 finished today, but it was relatively easy, not sure if that makes any difference.

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