You mean, like, if this was only the first in a Series?
This is the sophomore issue for American Liberty. If this were the first one in the series, I might have bought in.
I did buy the 2015 American Liberty, and the medals. Not sure if i'm even going to buy into the silver medals being offered later this year. Maybe the 4 medal reverse proof/enhanced set, depending on how it looks. I'll bet the premiums will be higher than the proof eagles, though.
@edgar said:
I live in DC and remember about 25 years or so ago, they lifted the statue of freedom from atop the capital dome and rested her in Capital park as they restored her. I remember walking by and gawking (The statue is huge). I noticed the headband and tried to figure out if that was it or was it something I ate or drank.
During my stop in Baltimore, I saw her and her silver sisters on the turntable. The coin seems huge, The light play was very appealing obverse and reverse. I immediately thought of that 4-coin slab. Put money in the bank last night and charged her at 12:04, no regrets I remember those who balked at the 2009 UHR premium, (one of my best mint buys at issue price) they're not bullion, I think she'll do fine the fewer the better.
The days of hitting home runs of US Mint releases are long gone. You will not see any huge profits from flips like in the old days.
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@edgar said:
I live in DC and remember about 25 years or so ago, they lifted the statue of freedom from atop the capital dome and rested her in Capital park as they restored her. I remember walking by and gawking (The statue is huge). I noticed the headband and tried to figure out if that was it or was it something I ate or drank.
During my stop in Baltimore, I saw her and her silver sisters on the turntable. The coin seems huge, The light play was very appealing obverse and reverse. I immediately thought of that 4-coin slab. Put money in the bank last night and charged her at 12:04, no regrets I remember those who balked at the 2009 UHR premium, (one of my best mint buys at issue price) they're not bullion, I think she'll do fine the fewer the better.
The days of hitting home runs of US Mint releases are long gone. You will not see any huge profits from flips like in the old days.
Coulda easily doubled you money the other day, with no limits on how much you spent. Sounds like a home run to me.
Five silver medals now, wow. First one to go on sale in June! The other 4 to be sold as a set later in the year. Why do we need 5? I would like to keep my 70's going from last year, but this could get expensive!
@Paulyaces76 said:
Five silver medals now, wow. First one to go on sale in June! The other 4 to be sold as a set later in the year. Why do we need 5? I would like to keep my 70's going from last year, but this could get expensive!
I believe it's only 4 silver medals, one from each minting facility, each with a different finish. No guarantee there will be a 4 coin set. The Mint has let us down several times of late by not offering sets.
This is a trigger that I've not been able to pull, yet. This of course means that the coin will be highly sought after it goes off-sale, unless I decide to buy one, in which case the market will never materialize.
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@grote15 said:
Any ideas when silver version will be released?
June, I believe. It will be a P-mint proof.
From what I've read, the four coin set (and it will be a set), will be like the Kennedy four coin, with a RP from Philly, an S-Mint Proof, a W-mint Enhanced, and a D-mint uncirc.
The mint stated (back in October of last year) that the four coins set would double the number of medals issued in 2016.
Let's speculate on what that means. Last year they issued 12.5K medals from 'Frisco and West Point. Does that mean 50K sets, or 50K medals?
If 50K medals, then that's 12.5K sets, or another instant sell-out. If it's 50K sets, it'll take a little longer, maybe 15 minutes.
If they keep the pricing similar to last year's, the set should be about $140.
Thanks for the response, Backroad. Looks like another one to watch!
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You mean, like, if this was only the first in a Series?
This is the sophomore issue for American Liberty. If this were the first one in the series, I might have bought in.
I did buy the 2015 American Liberty, and the medals. Not sure if i'm even going to buy into the silver medals being offered later this year. Maybe the 4 medal reverse proof/enhanced set, depending on how it looks. I'll bet the premiums will be higher than the proof eagles, though.
"The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin is the first in a series of 24-karat gold coins that will feature designs which depict an allegorical Liberty in a variety of contemporary forms..."
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You mean, like, if this was only the first in a Series?
This is the sophomore issue for American Liberty. If this were the first one in the series, I might have bought in.
I did buy the 2015 American Liberty, and the medals. Not sure if i'm even going to buy into the silver medals being offered later this year. Maybe the 4 medal reverse proof/enhanced set, depending on how it looks. I'll bet the premiums will be higher than the proof eagles, though.
"The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin is the first in a series of 24-karat gold coins that will feature designs which depict an allegorical Liberty in a variety of contemporary forms..."
To put it bluntly, this is the first in a series of medals of different races on the coin and medals. I believe we'll even see an Asian liberty at some point. This is the outcome of the Artistic Infusion program, where we'll see designs from different artists chosen by committee. If that doesn't scare you...
However, the Mint's name of the 2015 coin is the "High Relief American Liberty", the name of the medals are the "American Liberty 2016 Silver Medals". It's kinda hard to overlook that when you're trying to figure out the first of the "American Liberty" series.
@Coinsponge said:
I ordered this coin. I am sick of every government institution stumbling over each other to show how ethnophilic they are. Maybe some day they can just be human.
Looks very obvious that there is a human on the coin. I don't get your complaint. (Ok, actually, I know what your complaint is, but principle of charity, politeness, and all that.)
@Dentuck said:
There is numismatic precedent for the large-sized crown of stars. See the Standard Silver patterns --- here's a half dollar from 1869 (image courtesy of Stack's Bowers Galleries).
This pre dates this pattern. mark
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@grote15 said:
Any ideas when silver version will be released?
June, I believe. It will be a P-mint proof.
From what I've read, the four coin set (and it will be a set), will be like the Kennedy four coin, with a RP from Philly, an S-Mint Proof, a W-mint Enhanced, and a D-mint uncirc.
The mint stated (back in October of last year) that the four coins set would double the number of medals issued in 2016.
Let's speculate on what that means. Last year they issued 12.5K medals from 'Frisco and West Point. Does that mean 50K sets, or 50K medals?
If 50K medals, then that's 12.5K sets, or another instant sell-out. If it's 50K sets, it'll take a little longer, maybe 15 minutes.
If they keep the pricing similar to last year's, the set should be about $140.
It'll sell-out in 2 minutes if there's no household limit -- just like the recent 2017-S ASE.
But I think it's more likely there'll be a HHL of 2 (same as the 2016 medal).
Either way, I expect a quick sell-out.
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ACTUAL shipping happened today with the package arriving and departing Memphis. The emailed shipping notice received on Friday is stretching it somewhat to look good. It's still better than the last order fulfillment company. So I can't complain to much. (hahaha complaint supply is never depleted)
Just delivered to my door by a uniformed representative of a quasi governmental agency. Some fancy box...heavy too. 1.4 pounds. Embossed hard cover booklet. Black lacquered wood box. Very nice proof with light frost on her. Slightly concave. WOW
It would be nice if they offered this fancy presentation box as an option. It's gotta add $50+ to the price. A regular cardboard box like the ASE comes in would have been OK. They went all out on this one.
@kiyote said:
Is there room in the box for a slab? The mint has done that a couple of times. It sure helps.
In a word, yes.
If you are familiar with this style of Mint presentation box, there is an insert, 1/2" thick, gold stamped with the words "225th Anniversary" at the top. A fitted hole in the center with a thin rubber like material gasket around the outer edge for a tight fit of the encapsulated coin. There is a back chamfered edge across the lower front of the insert so it will fit and not move within the box.
A slab, set sideways, across the top of the insert fits nicely. The top of the box will still close with no problem.
I will attempt to get pictures a little later, it's 6:15 am, showing the coin, in position, in the box. Showing the convex look, the frosting of her head and the mirrored field. And a slab in place across the insert.
@kiyote said:
I wish I knew how sales were going. The mint has not updated their sales for two weeks.
Yeah, makes no sense, unless they're hiding the sales of this coin. I suppose it could be inventory week, but I checked last year's sales reports at this time, and there are no missing reports. (Has anyone heard of a real reason behind it? Is Mike White on vacation or something?)
The 24k proof Buff gets released in a month. it will be interesting to compare how it does versus the AmLib. (The Proof Buff averages about 20K/year, and is $50 cheaper less expensive than the AmLib.)
I am ambivalent about this coin. Though I don't like the design, the thing that really kept me out of this was the ridiculous mark up over spot. The sales of the medals will probably determine whether people stayed out because of the price or the design. (The price of the medals will be 2.5-3 times silver spot, but will still be much more affordable...)
@kiyote said:
I wish I knew how sales were going. The mint has not updated their sales for two weeks.
One would think that the function / bureaucracy grinds on regardless, missing sales numbers from the mint? Probably starved for money, can't........get.....those......figures......numbers.......out.......not....enough....money {Gasp}
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You mean, like, if this was only the first in a Series?
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Lets hope so because it is a proof coin. If its not at least proof like your going to be very upset...
don't complain.
combine a modern take in high relief and the next step up is bust coinage, and we could have a very, very pleasant new coin.
This is the sophomore issue for American Liberty. If this were the first one in the series, I might have bought in.
I did buy the 2015 American Liberty, and the medals. Not sure if i'm even going to buy into the silver medals being offered later this year. Maybe the 4 medal reverse proof/enhanced set, depending on how it looks. I'll bet the premiums will be higher than the proof eagles, though.
The days of hitting home runs of US Mint releases are long gone. You will not see any huge profits from flips like in the old days.
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Can't help but think there is a reason for the coin proposal.
Hair, stuck in a cap tube, at some time was fashionable?
And now, we got this, the exact opposite. Hair hangs out of the cap. Fashion.
Shipped email just received
Coinworld is reporting first day sales numbers. They'd be great if the mintage was 15K...
Link to article:
Opening day of sales for Proof 2017 American Liberty gold $100 coin uneventful
oof
perhaps next month I get one to keep it First Strike sealed in the box.
V> @Cakes said:
Coulda easily doubled you money the other day, with no limits on how much you spent. Sounds like a home run to me.
Five silver medals now, wow. First one to go on sale in June! The other 4 to be sold as a set later in the year. Why do we need 5? I would like to keep my 70's going from last year, but this could get expensive!
I believe it's only 4 silver medals, one from each minting facility, each with a different finish. No guarantee there will be a 4 coin set. The Mint has let us down several times of late by not offering sets.
Here is a thread on these silver medals:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/978755/2017-american-liberty-silver-medals-unveiled#latest
edit to delete duplicate post
http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2017/04/mint-debuts-five-2017-american-liberty-silver-medals.html
This is a trigger that I've not been able to pull, yet. This of course means that the coin will be highly sought after it goes off-sale, unless I decide to buy one, in which case the market will never materialize.
I knew it would happen.
It'll Probably perform like the gold Kennedy half dollar.
It wishes!
Any ideas when silver version will be released?
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June, I believe. It will be a P-mint proof.
From what I've read, the four coin set (and it will be a set), will be like the Kennedy four coin, with a RP from Philly, an S-Mint Proof, a W-mint Enhanced, and a D-mint uncirc.
The mint stated (back in October of last year) that the four coins set would double the number of medals issued in 2016.
Let's speculate on what that means. Last year they issued 12.5K medals from 'Frisco and West Point. Does that mean 50K sets, or 50K medals?
If 50K medals, then that's 12.5K sets, or another instant sell-out. If it's 50K sets, it'll take a little longer, maybe 15 minutes.
If they keep the pricing similar to last year's, the set should be about $140.
Thanks for the response, Backroad. Looks like another one to watch!
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I agree with you.
But the USMint's press release says otherwise:
"The 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin is the first in a series of 24-karat gold coins that will feature designs which depict an allegorical Liberty in a variety of contemporary forms..."
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To put it bluntly, this is the first in a series of medals of different races on the coin and medals. I believe we'll even see an Asian liberty at some point. This is the outcome of the Artistic Infusion program, where we'll see designs from different artists chosen by committee. If that doesn't scare you...
However, the Mint's name of the 2015 coin is the "High Relief American Liberty", the name of the medals are the "American Liberty 2016 Silver Medals". It's kinda hard to overlook that when you're trying to figure out the first of the "American Liberty" series.
Looks very obvious that there is a human on the coin. I don't get your complaint. (Ok, actually, I know what your complaint is, but principle of charity, politeness, and all that.)
Ed. S.
(EJS)
This pre dates this pattern. mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
It'll sell-out in 2 minutes if there's no household limit -- just like the recent 2017-S ASE.
But I think it's more likely there'll be a HHL of 2 (same as the 2016 medal).
Either way, I expect a quick sell-out.
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ACTUAL shipping happened today with the package arriving and departing Memphis. The emailed shipping notice received on Friday is stretching it somewhat to look good. It's still better than the last order fulfillment company. So I can't complain to much. (hahaha complaint supply is never depleted)
Mine also shipped. No hurry though as sealed es bueno.
The display model with be a PCGS 70.
Just delivered to my door by a uniformed representative of a quasi governmental agency. Some fancy box...heavy too. 1.4 pounds. Embossed hard cover booklet. Black lacquered wood box. Very nice proof with light frost on her. Slightly concave. WOW
It would be nice if they offered this fancy presentation box as an option. It's gotta add $50+ to the price. A regular cardboard box like the ASE comes in would have been OK. They went all out on this one.
Can you post a picture of her and the packaging?
Anyone who bought the first week has already made money....price is up $50 due to the price of gold.
I will have to try again with better lighting. Quick shots with my phone.
Is there room in the box for a slab? The mint has done that a couple of times. It sure helps.
In a word, yes.
If you are familiar with this style of Mint presentation box, there is an insert, 1/2" thick, gold stamped with the words "225th Anniversary" at the top. A fitted hole in the center with a thin rubber like material gasket around the outer edge for a tight fit of the encapsulated coin. There is a back chamfered edge across the lower front of the insert so it will fit and not move within the box.
A slab, set sideways, across the top of the insert fits nicely. The top of the box will still close with no problem.
I will attempt to get pictures a little later, it's 6:15 am, showing the coin, in position, in the box. Showing the convex look, the frosting of her head and the mirrored field. And a slab in place across the insert.
Thanks for the effort, Kudbegud. Mine has yet to arrive so I am living vicariously.
I gotta have coffee first before I try to capture suitable pix in my phone. When you see yours in person I think you will be satisfied.
Nothing beats in hand viewing. This coin is better than the Mint's drawings depict.
Like it or not this will be a rare coin when they melt the other 80k of them.
..> @silvereagleproof said:
Yep. True enough.
Thanks for the photos! Thanks for taking the time.
I am excited to see spot gold continue to rise on political turmoil and tweets!
I would take this over the 2015 UHR in a heatbeat. Fantastic Looking coin!
I wish I knew how sales were going. The mint has not updated their sales for two weeks.
Yeah, makes no sense, unless they're hiding the sales of this coin. I suppose it could be inventory week, but I checked last year's sales reports at this time, and there are no missing reports. (Has anyone heard of a real reason behind it? Is Mike White on vacation or something?)
The 24k proof Buff gets released in a month. it will be interesting to compare how it does versus the AmLib. (The Proof Buff averages about 20K/year, and is $50 cheaper less expensive than the AmLib.)
I am ambivalent about this coin. Though I don't like the design, the thing that really kept me out of this was the ridiculous mark up over spot. The sales of the medals will probably determine whether people stayed out because of the price or the design. (The price of the medals will be 2.5-3 times silver spot, but will still be much more affordable...)
Sales update this Wednesday..
One would think that the function / bureaucracy grinds on regardless, missing sales numbers from the mint? Probably starved for money, can't........get.....those......figures......numbers.......out.......not....enough....money {Gasp}
Scotty never said, "Captain Kirk! I can't report the sales figures unless I receive enough money!!!!
Non reporting?
Ridiculous
The price of the Gold Buffalo will probably be $1640.
Which was the price of the Liberty during the first week.
I will buy the silver versions. The gold liberty is just not in my budget this year.
Box of 20
If the mint struck 100,000 of these they will be on sale for ten more years.
They sure put a lot into the packaging. Probably why it has a high premium over the metal value.