ag 2000-d coinstar dime - worth submitting to our host?
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PMD
Damaged at the laundry mat
Looks to me like someone squeezed it in a bench vise.
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Poor 3 for sure! Super low pop. Send it in before others get the same idea.
No... PMD.... likely a washer/dryer coin.... Cheers, RickO
Have you ever came across a coin you didn't want to send in? That seems to be your answer for everything.
I hope this poster is pulling our collective legs...if not........I don't know what to say really.
At first I found his posts obnoxious, but then I realized he must be a comedian! If you wrote the stuff he does, you would have to think about it with a sense of humor prior to coming up with it.
I try to keep my images posted related to the coin itself...not a crumb of some sort in the upper right hand corner of the OBV image...too much nonrelevant space and time wasted loading the image up. Crop it down to the coin itself...please.
BTW...PMD
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PM me so we can talk numbers...seriously. People here will laugh at you, but I know better.
I'll see you in the PM.
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looks like a 2006-D to me, but I do not have the coin
I'd like to place a bet with any of you who call this sort of wear PMD that it will not come back as damaged. Exactly _what _about this coin is damaged? Can someone give me the definition of "Post Mint Damage" so it can be used correctly? LOL
Agree....."Unnatural Wear" if you don't like the tag PMD.
Look at the photograde for Roosevelt dimes at the PCGS site. https://pcgs.com/photograde/#/Roosevelt/Grades
Granted, it doesn't go down to AG there...but look at the coins in the F-VF area. The central portion of those coins look WEAKER than the AG coin shown in this thread, while the rims are stronger.
That's the clue that something beyond normal wear at work here. Stuck in some machinery, (washer/dryer, counting machine, etc.), as noted by someone above. The coin in the OP would not get a clean grade....or at least shouldn't.
Watch it
, it's mine now and headed to our hosts...just for kicks.
Don't send it Express though. No rush in just a regular submission. Is it going alone or are you piggybacking it with other set-up coins?
When coin surfaces exhibit features beyond what can be called 'natural wear', it is termed 'post mint damage'...this coin did not wear naturally. We look forward to the determination by PCGS... Please tag us in your response when you get the results. Thank you, Cheers, RickO
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I have a few nickels like this and I wondered if the metal composition was different to make it softer for some reason. I have no basis for that hypothesis other than the "soft" look the nickels have. Like old circulated gold. I'll try to find a pic.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
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"Post Mint Damage" in that somebody polished it down for unknown reasons.
No way that coin straight grades.
Like I said, I'll bet to anyone, lol.
What's the bet?
Well........what's the bet?
I am waiting.
Several local bookies are also interested in some of the action.
There's no way I know you are trying to talk to me unless you tag or quote me, just for future reference.
And no monetary bet (I never bet cash), just bragging rights that I know what I'm talking about.
I'll take a piece of that action.
The coin does not have significant honest wear, and won't grade as Poor. You can't take a power tool to a coin and end up with a gradable/slabable coin. if it were that easy then lowball coins/sets would meaningless.
BTW - I have a nickel that looks just like that dime. Whatever PMD your dime has, my nickel went through the same thing.
All right--if I am right, and the coin is not graded, all I want you to do is admit that I am awesome.
And if I am wrong.....nah, I'm not.
I'll admit that PCGS got this one wrong.
Maybe a bit sore
Ha. All the wrong guesses aside, why was it worth the grading fees? Lowball reg. Sets?
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In this instance, to prove a point.
Interesting but not into lowball coins. Good job teaching us a thing or two!
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ID yourselves & say you were wrong this time.
Did it grade? I do not see it linked........If so, I will certainly admit I was wrong...however, I want to see it in the slab... Where is it??? Cheers, RickO
OK... found it.... Unbelievable... Or... as Rocky would say - "UN-beeleebabul"...
I thought sure it would say 'damaged' on the slab.... Cheers, RickO
i wouldnt. thats up to you though ( just saying)
Not only were most wrong, @abcde12345 was the only person to actually give a grade and was harassed over his comment. He was spot on (despite being AG3 not Poor 3)
So, you can now go back to a GTG thread and rub everyone's noses in it that guessed wrong. Way to keep it classy!
Sorry I let this thread go by. I opened it up early and assumed someone would answer this question.
The coin has been damaged by having its rims ground or filed off. It was then lightly worn.
That is not a natural look for an AG '04-D dime.
According to PCGS, it is. Graded AG03 by them.
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This coin was stuck and worn down in a laundry dryer. I have seen many. It is Damaged. It should have been body bagged.
There is NO WAY this modern of a dime has that much wear.
The wear pattern is not normal circulation, no way, no how.
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I completely agree! This is not naturally worn.
I'm not sure why everyone is bashing me because this coin graded. People seem to be under the misinformed impression that I believe this coin is naturally worn. I do NOT believe this coin is naturally worn, because it is not.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS COIN IS NATURALLY WORN. I WAS SIMPLY MAKING THE ORIGINAL POINT THAT IT WOULD GRADE, AND IT HAS
I'm really getting a great kick out of these threads and over how many jimmies have been rustled. It's heartwarming to see so many people suddenly interested in me
. In all seriousness, this coin shouldn't have even graded in the first place. Meatwad and the error guy are so mad over this topic, it's ridiculous. Meatwad has even resorted to an attempted insult over a grader's personal opinion.
To you, meatwad- Bet on it that if I sent those three cents after the 31-D back in raw, they'll grade straight. It's called having a "proper set up coin." For someone that "has been in the business three times longer" than I've been alive (how would you even know my age to begin with), you Should know that...unless by targeting my person, it somehow makes you feel better?
A "proper" coin set up is hardly a guarantee of anything. I did it myself on a few hundred submissions in years past and all it gives you is a potential "edge." Maybe 55-45 instead of 50-50. I once discussed set up coins and upgrading with probably the sharpest dealer in the world back around 2004. Even they admitted they are happy to get a 55-45% edge....even down to tracking who the specific graders will likely be when that submission gets taken in. It's about probabilities...not guarantees. One man's "proper" coin set up....is the next guy's "losing" set up. There's no guarantee that the graders look at the coins front to back or back to front, or pull some out of the middle first. I guess if you have duplicates of everything you can have a setup that is identical in both directions.....
There's a very good chance you're right but dryers aren't the only way coins come to look like this.
I agree.
I agree. It is an impossibility for all practical purposes.
I agree.
Have not read the thread yet. Wish there were a photo of the edge in the OP.
While I'm not an "Error authenticator," IMHO, the coin shows no evidence of PMD from squeezing, washing machine, filing down the rims, or anything else. The color and surfaces of this coin look completely normal.
Hopefully when I read the thread, it will contain REASONS for the opinions being thrown around. Also, I should be interested to know if Fred saw this.
Yes, I've been following this thread,
and have avoided posting in it because
there was enough 'give and take' about
the coin that went on without my opinion.
But, since Insider2 asked, here's my view:
PCGS made a mistake in grading that dime.
It is not worn, or Poor, Fair, AG, etc.
The coin appears to look like it does from
putting it in some type of machinery to
grind off the outer portions of the coin.
It is not wear, but damage. That's one subject point.
The other is that PCGS erred in certifying it as a
low-grade, circulated coin. That's another subject point.
Just as a point of info, if the submitter had sent it into
PCGS, NGC, or ANACS as a Die Adjustment Strike, for
example, (Mint Error Tier), I assure you that none
of those services would have called it any type of error,
and in PCGS's case, I would have called it "damaged/altered".
The OP gets points for having it in a PCGS holder, but
in all honesty, the coin should have been bagged, imo.
Wild guess?
Possible Casino coin? Wear from repeated use in slot machines?
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